[Online Org Play] Quick survey about your experiences


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DEAR PLAYERS/BRs/GENERAL LOVERS OF ONLINE PACG GAMING!!

I had posted this just in the online PACG organized play lodge, Flaxseed On Deck, but was convinced to make it more widely available.

I have a fairly simple request for all of you. I am conducting a survey in order to determine how you currently play and how you intend to continue to play the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game online. I would really appreciate it if you would fill this short survey out, as it will be helpful for making adjustments/updates to online organized play moving forward.

Please only respond once to this survey! It will require you to enter your Paizo.com screenname. I would also appreciate it if you'd add a contact email address so that we can let you know about upcoming events we're running, but this is not a requirement.

Link to Player Survey

Thank you all very much in advance!

Tyler (Cartmanbeck/Box Runner Nalshene) Beck


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Survey completed
Looking forward to more online play!!


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What is online play?


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Xexyz wrote:
What is online play?

Play by Forum e.g.

is one game I am playing in
You use a google sheet to track your character, deck etc and post your turn into the forum thread. Dice rolling is handled in thread.
Not as good as playing in person (turns take longer, more difficult to interact with other players), however WAAAAYYYYY better than no game play at all!!
Has been pretty much my only PFACG play for most of 2018
Saved my sanity!


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Xexyz wrote:
What is online play?

Check out This blog post which gave a some info on what play-by-post is all about.

After checking that out, Cartemanbeck linked our Flaxeed On Deck Lodge which has a Campaign page which goes over some of the info needed to get started.

That Flaxeed on Deck Lodge is the recruiting grounds for our online play. You can make a post on the gameplay tab and then it will appear on your campaign page. You'll be able to check that page to see if there are new posts in the Discussion/recruitment tabs. Once you join a game they will have their own thread and that would also appear on your campaign page.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask on the Flaxeed on Deck Discussion page! If you're wanting to join a game then post in the recruitment page!

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Thanks for jumping in and answering questions, redeux!

@Xexyz: If you're interested, we're always happy to have new play-by-post players, so stop by the Flaxseed On Deck lodge and see if you'd like to try a game!


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What the...

Online play? How did I miss this?!

Must read everything. Me want in.


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Morbus Iff wrote:

What the...

Online play? How did I miss this?!

Must read everything. Me want in.

Ha! Last year during Outpost was our first time opening up Play-by-post to a larger audience and we've slowly been growing since then. Speaking of Outpost, we will have sign-ups soon for Outpost II. Keep an eye out on the forums and of course Flaxeed On Deck's Recruitment page which should always have the most up-to-date recruitment info. If you're not familiar with those campaigns you can make a post and delete your post to get it to show up your profile's campaign page. Then you can check your campaign page occasionally and it will tell you when there are new posts to read.

Let us know if you have questions!


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Signups open tomorrow!

OK, so: here's my soft history: I preordered Rise of the Runelords, and now have one of those sweet sweet .5mm larger error-fun First Editions of the entire campaign. I played it a few times, could never find a local group (and my family was kinda meh on it), and it went on the shelf. Interest renewed again when Skulls & Shackles came out (mmmm, pirates!) and the announcement of OP. Bought the base set, tried it a few times, bought the first OP adventure, never got involved in the OP, could still find no local players. I've tried the solo thing a few times, but enjoy playing with other people more. Either because I suck (WHY DO I KEEP DYING?!) or because my brain is too crowded to handle 3 to 4 characters solo.

Poo. And, since then, I've been away from the game, but the new Core and Crimson has secured a preorder from me.

So, with Outpost II signups tomorrow, I'm super tempted, but you made the mistake of asking for questions:

1) I'd be considered a newb who has forgotten (and just reread) all the rules. Friendly groups?
2) I'm literally mute. I'll happily type in real-time to anyone (I see Hangouts are used), but I don't speak.
3) What's the turns-per-day-per-player requirements?
4) Do you actually setup a table with the cards at your house, and follow along with the turns? Or do you just stare at the digital location decks and post history?
5) I likely don't have the cards required for Tapestry's Tides, so what should I buy? Should I buy the first TT OP? What's a good non-martial newb character in the allowed list?
6) More importantly, do I still have /time/ to get into this (shipping, waiting, reading, etc)? Am I a good fit? If not, don't hesitate to say so (since my ill fit would affect the enjoyment of the entire table), and I'll re-open things after May ;)


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Hi Mobius!

Welcome to online PACG. I have played a lot in person and then moved to a town with no in person play last year.
found online play and have been in four or five tables since then

Re your questions:
1) I'd be considered a newb who has forgotten (and just reread) all the rules. Friendly groups?
* I have found the groups very forgiving. As long as you let your table know you, I am sure they will be happy to work you through your turns as you get the hang of things
2) I'm literally mute. I'll happily type in real-time to anyone (I see Hangouts are used), but I don't speak.
* Most of the tables I have played in use hangouts to coordinate play. This will be good for working out rules questions etc
3) What's the turns-per-day-per-player requirements?
* You need to ask your table. Some have high tempo eg multi turns a day. Others have been a lot slower e.g. once every day or so. If you let people know when you are offline for a while e.g unable to post for the weekend is fine.
4) Do you actually setup a table with the cards at your house, and follow along with the turns? Or do you just stare at the digital location decks and post history?
* You use a Google sheets template to record your character, the deck and hands etc
* The game state is in forum posts with spoiler tags for face down cards
5) I likely don't have the cards required for Tapestry's Tides, so what should I buy? Should I buy the first TT OP? What's a good non-martial newb character in the allowed list?
* All you need is a class deck and an optional unlimited deck. You don't need a game box set
* See Info on class decks
* Yewstance has done an awesome analysis on a lot of class / character decks. This would help you choose one Class deck analysis
* Online play uses the Organized Play rules. You should read this section of the Paizo site and download and read the Guild guide. Paizo Organized Play

6) More importantly, do I still have /time/ to get into this (shipping, waiting, reading, etc)? Am I a good fit? If not, don't hesitate to say so (since my ill fit would affect the enjoyment of the entire table), and I'll re-open things after May ;)
* I think you are a good fit to play.
* Signups start tomorrow. There will be at least a couple of weeks until the games actually start, so you have lots of time to select a class deck and get your physical copy

Feel free to reach out if you have any more questions.
Happy to take offline via Paizo personal message if you want


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+1 to Matsu's helpful answers.

My two cents more:

Morbus Iff wrote:
1) I'd be considered a newb who has forgotten (and just reread) all the rules. Friendly groups?

A hallmark of the Paizo PACG forums, IMO, is a welcoming and forgiving spirit. If you're unsure of the rules, just ask. All of us get a rule wrong now and then. The boxrunner & your fellow party members will help you work things out. (Google Hangouts can really facilitate this.)

Morbus Iff wrote:
2) I'm literally mute. I'll happily type in real-time to anyone (I see Hangouts are used), but I don't speak.

I've lost track of how many online scenarios I've played. A wild guess is between seventy and ninety (including playtesting). I've never once spoken to someone I'm playing with online (in person, video, or audio)*.

Morbus Iff wrote:
3) What's the turns-per-day-per-player requirements?

The table can decide, as Matsu says. IMHO you should be able to consistently post within 24 hours of the end of the turn of the player before you (sooner, if possible). It's true your party will understand occasional needs for a longer delay, and sometimes you'll really have no choice but to to wait for the boxrunner to update the scenario. I'm just suggesting a general practice.

Once in a 5-player game I was the player after a player who would not post for two or three days, and would also not post anything about when they were going to post. This drove me batty. I would check every two or three hours for days to see if it was my turn, then burn out and stop checking, only to find I missed my turn-start by 10 or 12 hours. Please don't be that player.

*With the exception of Keith Richmond, but First World Bard introduced me to him before I started playing online.


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1. Yep, everyone is really nice here. Your box runner or fellow players will be happy to remind you of rules, answer questions you may have, and so on.

2. Hangouts and Discord are used pretty much exclusively for text-based communication. It's faster to ask and get responses in those chatrooms than it is to post on the Discussion thread, because they have notifications that other players can receive and the discussion thread does not. The discussion thread is still useful for many things despite that, but I encourage joining such a hangouts or discord group if it's on offer because it does greatly speed up the game.

3. The base requirement is that you're able to check in and post at least once a day. If you're going to be gone for a while, you sould notify your players and provide instructions for "botting" your character (letting another player post on your behalf). Conventions and specials are time-limited, so it's important that the game keeps moving. For tables outside of that, it's more ok if people just take breaks for a while, such as holidays and the like. Some tables put on stricter requirements for posting, so you'd want to check in if that's the case.

4. I recommend having the physical cards for your class deck and character deck on-hand for easier reference when making your posts and looking at what upgrades you may wish to take. You don't need the box set itself, and you don't need to purchase the scenarios if you're just playing (only the box runner needs to have the box set and the scenarios).

5. I have nothing to add to Matsu Kurisu's excellent answer.

6. You need to verify ownership of your physical class deck before you can begin play, but you don't need that in order to sign up. So, sign up when they open, and send in the verification anytime before play begins :)


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Thank you Matsu Kurisu, elcoderdude, and skizzerz!

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You guys are fantastic, thank you for answering Morbus' questions. I'm always super excited to see new players jumping in.

To Morbus, they all answered your questions incredibly well, but I figured I should introduce myself. I'm Tyler Beck (Cartmanbeck/Nalshene here on the forums) and I'm the Venture Captain for online PACG organized play. We've only been doing this a bit over a year, really, and the community has been growing very steadily the whole time, so you're not the only one who didn't know it was a thing at first!

I unfortunately won't be running any tables myself during OutPost, because I'm going to be out of town for most of March and won't have time to run a game, but all of our box runners are FANTASTIC and will be great at helping you get started!


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Do I need a character chosen and a Pathfinder Society ID to sign up? I've yet to do that yet (waiting on shipment of some class decks to peruse through) and, as such, I've yet to create a Society ID yet. (I've put my name in for skizzerz' table to placeholder, but can be bumped as needed.)


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Another newb question (sorry!):

The PFSACG Guide says that I can either "Build Your Own Character" or "Play a Pregenerated Character" (pg 8). It instructs me to "download the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game Character Sheets" and that "these downloads include pregenerated starting deck lists for one character in each deck."

I don't know any better, so I thought I should use a pregenerated deck.

But, the provided "Character Sheets" download does not appear to have a "pregenerated starting character deck list" or, at least, I am unable to find one in a form that I expected (namely, for example, a form similar to the "Suggested Deck Lists" in the Mummy's Mask Rulebook, pg. 28).

What am I missing?


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Hi Morbus.

These resources might be useful...

Resources:

For general information about play-by-post PACG, here's an old announcement that gives more detail about how pbp actually works:

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2009017/next-online-play-post-convention-s tarting-july-9th

This is a Paizo thread to practice rolling dice, etc., in forum play:

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v7dj?Playbyforum-test-thread-To-practice-post ing

If you've never done "organized play" (OP) Pathfinder, you'll need to create and register a character. A fan-made Quickstart Guide for OP can be found here:

Download link

Other notes:

You'll need a spreadsheet-based deck handler. I use an offline version, but most people use the online (Google docs?) version. Someone can direct you to one or the other, I imagine.

All of the Outpost 2 games are Tier 1, so you don't need a pregenerated character. You just need to throw together a 15-card character deck. The deck must (a) only contain cards with the Basic trait and (b) have the proper card distribution. The Quickstart Guide above tells you how to do that.

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On the topic of pregens, if you'd prefer to use a pregenerated 1st-tier deck, you can totally do that. Here's a link to a site that includes all of the pregens that are options: Pregens


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Managing one's hand:
I had hoped a creator/modifier of the tools we're using would post, but, not seeing that, here's something. Cartmanbeck (who I'm nominating for Volunteer of the Year) originally coded a Google Sheets hand manager, which others then modified. Here's two version:

Here's a June 2018 version from Yewstance

Here's a July 2018 version from Zalarian

I suggest you copy one or both, then explore to understand how it works (unhiding columns can help). Then delete that copy (because you've almost certainly broken it beyond repair) and make a new copy for use.

Note: If you have questions about the handler, please DM me - please do not post questions to this thread.

Note: In general, do NOT use Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V to move cards around. Google Sheets becomes wildly confused about links. Ctrl-C/Shift-Ctrl-V works fine (because it just pastes the value).

In a pinch, it's possible to post your turn using just a smartphone (with the Google Sheets app), although I find it painful.


For a somewhat more updated version of a Deck Handler I use as a base: see Yewstance's current Deck Handler Template. You may find plenty of sheets and elements of no interest to you, and scripts that you don't have to run.

If players want any help, or any requests for me to modify a Deck Handler to suit their exact needs a bit better, I might be able to help if you DM me as well. There are some technical restrictions with Google Sheets, though.

Grand Lodge

Responses have trickled off, so I'm planning to end the survey this Friday and tabulate the results. If you haven't filled out the survey yet, PLEASE DO SO BY THE END OF THE DAY ON FRIDAY, FEB 15th!

Link to Player Survey

Thanks all!

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