Warrior Poet looks like a fun and interesting Samurai archetype


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Chrysanthemum’s Blooming: The warrior poet gains Vital Strike as a bonus feat and can apply its benefit when using Spring Attack. If the warrior poet is at least 16th level and has Improved Vital Strike, she can apply that feat’s benefit instead. The warrior poet must be at least 11th level to select this flourish.
Vital Strike wrote:
Benefit: When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage. Roll the weapon's damage dice for the attack twice and add the results together before adding bonuses from Strength, weapon abilities (such as flaming), precision based damage, and other damage bonuses. These extra weapon damage dice are not multiplied on a critical hit, but are added to the total.
Spring Attack wrote:
As a full-round action, you can move up to your speed and make a single melee attack without provoking any attacks of opportunity from the target of your attack.
Improved Vital Strike wrote:
When you use Spring Attack, you can select two targets to attack during your movement instead of one. The second attack made this way is made at your full base attack bonus – 5. All restrictions of Spring Attack apply to both targets, and your movement does not provoke attacks of opportunity from either target. You can’t target the same creature twice.

It seem like it all works together to me. But is it really that big of a deal? Each attack has to be against a different target. And in a game of focus fire and rocket tag, I just can't see it being worth enough to worry about. You can't even do this till level 11, at which point there are a lot of crazier things happening than someone being kind of good at hitting 2 to 3 guys in the same turn.


Thanks for the reminder Ryan. I recall now. That one seemed pretty clear to me.

Anyways, looking at this archetype of would actually work well with a rogue companion and a focus on feints. They delay until your turn, tumble in to get a hit in (which given your high dex should still be high enough to count as a sneak or better yet scout archetype to match your own style) then with a little spring and feint feats magic along with feinting partner... free hits. Feint with spring attack.

Throw in some combat reflexes and a weapon enhancement... a rogue moving into combat normally getting one sneak would work with his ally to gain many.

I dunno I just like the idea of a scout rogue and this archetype both doing the same thing visually and yet doing it both differently mechanically.

Hell at mid levels if the rogue is surrounded with twinned feint you could feint down the line of your improved spring attack and both chew up a massive amount of hit points just for moving towards the enemy. Pretty deadly.

It's rare to have feint focused builds so that appeals to me to try something new.


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Warrior Poet seems a fantastic entry to Devoted Muse, since Kitsune's Mystique lets you feint for free when you spring attack or make a move action to move and the biggest problem with the Muse is the action economy when feinting. Plus you get Cha to AC twice (as an armor bonus from the Poet and as a dodge bonus from the Muse.)


Sorry for the thread-necromancy, but has there even been any clarification re: the level prerequisites for this archetype’s flourishes and the levels at which point the Warrior Poet can take them?

As a reminder, the Warrior Poet gains a flourish of their choice at 1st, 3rd, 5th, 9th, 13th, 17th, and 20th levels.

Two of the seven flourishes the Warrior Poet can choose from require the Warrior Poet to be 4th, 8th, and 11th level to select them, however.

Given that the rules do not allow a character to retrain a class feature to gain an ability they couldn’t qualify for at a lower level, is there a reason why the level requirement for the flourishes in question wasn’t simply raised to the next level when this archetype actually grants a flourish? Or did those mismatches just slip through the editorial process?

Here’s hoping Isabelle is still on these forums!

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