Batman is that clockwork alchemist archetype that repurposes its extracts as machines
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Yoinking this idea.
That said..., could have sworn I saw this topic before. And I made a post like this;
Really it depends on the "Batman" you want to go with and the "Batmanness" you want to hit.
The problem with a question like, "How can I be Batman?" is that it isn't specific enough. "Batman" carries many connotations.
If you mean, "How can I fight gangsters in Gotham city while dressed as a bat while maintaining a secret identity as a billionaire playboy?" you probably shouldn't be playing Pathfinder.
If you mean, "How can I, playing strict RAW with no reflavoring, be a mundane guy with no superhuman powers who nevertheless is able to keep up with the superpowered guys by using cunning, gadgets, and martial arts?" then "be a Wizard" is awful advice.
If you mean, "How can I play a character who is physically frail and weak compared to his allies, but uses intelligence and preparation to be ready to deal with every situation that arises, and by the way my GM will allow me to reflavor a spell component pouch as a utility belt?" then "be a Wizard" could be good advice.
There are lots of helpful people on these boards. If you don't get the answers you want, it probably means you phrased your question badly.
I second blahpers and will just leave this here
But seriously, it was explained quite wonderfully by Blarknipnar. Different people find fulfillment in different ways. Thus, their interpretation of Batman as a Wizard is not objectively wrong as we are speaking on a subjective topic. To them, achieving the goal of becoming Batman within Pathfinder means something different than it does to you. They are not wrong, you are not right.
BUT you are also not wrong and they are also not right. This is the nature of an interpretation, which is an opinion. Opinions are, when opposed, often debated. Within these Debates, one does not simply reject their opponent entirely and stand by their current stance without questioning it. When you do that within an argument, no one will take you seriously because you have no intention of truly arguing your point. You are preaching instead of attempting to engage in a discourse, which is the whole point of a Discussion.
As we are within the Discussion forum, a discussion is expected with all the relevant rules associated with that type of discourse. The give and the take are necessary for a successful discussion and a well reasoned argument, especially on the internet where every user is a peer and on equal grounds with each other. If you refuse to acknowledge valid points of concern, then you have already failed to deliver your point as no one on the forums much cares to be preached at by a peer.
So, try to shape your arguments while acknowledging the points of others. Other people will continue to play Batman as a Wizard no matter how strongly you word your points. If instead you focus on being conciliatory and supplying alternatives you can encourage folks to choose a different path to Batmanhood.
Personal vote goes to the Vigilante that gets Occultist impliments because Psychometrist is awesome but if folks wanna be Batman with a Wizard Hat then they are welcome to do so.