| River of Sticks |
Hi all,
I am curious what the highest BAB a single classed spell caster can get, even temporarily, plus bonus full BAB attacks. As examples:
- Name Keeper Shaman Archetype gets an ability to make one additional attack at full BAB when making a full attack
- Oracle Ancestor Mystery, Spirit of the Warrior Revelation: treat class level as BAB for a short time, including giving more iterative.
- Medium Champion Sudden Attack Spirit ability: similar to the Name Keeper, gives an extra Full BAB attack when full attacking
- Occultist with Trappings of the Warrior can get Full BAB
These are the ones I could find... Are there others, or a way to combine the above? The best I can see is a Full BAB temporarily with an oracle, Full BAB with 6th level Occultist casting, or bonus attacks on shaman or medium.... I cannot find a way to combine them.
| lemeres |
Edit- I realize now that this was actually about the extra attacks. So my comment goes in the wrong direction (focused on general bonus to attack). I put the original comment in the spoiler because I feel it is rude to remove a comment after someone else has posted.
So, assuming you mean 'best melee attacker with good spell casting'... I think I might be stuck between an arsenal chaplain warpriest and a dawnflower dervish bard.
The arsenal chaplain warpriest takes the warpriest, which can already swift action cast a buff, and it adds weapon training on top.
The dawnflower dervish bard removes the ability to give allies the buffs from inspire courage... but gives you double the bonus from things like inspire courage. So that means a +8/+8, along with the option to get arcane strike.
| avr |
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A cleric, oracle or shaman who casts divine power gets that extra attack among other bonuses. Divine power used to give full BAB; the transformation spell still does, for the various arcane, alchemical and psychic casters who can get it. I suppose a medium taking the archmage (not champion) spirit could get full BAB that way.
Transformation plus one of the many other spells which give an extra attack (haste, blessing of fervor etc.) seems to meet your requirements.
| Ryze Kuja |
If you want tons of attacks with good BAB, try Synthesist Summoner.
If you want a full caster with high attack, try a Orc Bloodline Sorcerer. Their BAB is only 2/4, but they make up for it with lots of strength bonuses. If you build them right, they can end up with about 30-40 Str by level 20 (but your Cha will suffer a bit).
Grandlounge
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If you want tons of attacks with good BAB, try Synthesist Summoner.
If you want a full caster with high attack, try a Orc Bloodline Sorcerer. Their BAB is only 2/4, but they make up for it with lots of strength bonuses. If you build them right, they can end up with about 30-40 Str by level 20 (but your Cha will suffer a bit).
The orc bloodline does not stack with the bonus gained from manuals, wish or miracle so it is limited to being good for a few levels its not bad but I would not put it top tier without transformation and other buffs.
| Ryze Kuja |
Ryze Kuja wrote:The orc bloodline does not stack with the bonus gained from manuals, wish or miracle so it is limited to being good for a few levels its not bad but I would not put it top tier without transformation and other buffs.If you want tons of attacks with good BAB, try Synthesist Summoner.
If you want a full caster with high attack, try a Orc Bloodline Sorcerer. Their BAB is only 2/4, but they make up for it with lots of strength bonuses. If you build them right, they can end up with about 30-40 Str by level 20 (but your Cha will suffer a bit).
Yeah but Orc Bloodline Sorcerers are fun. It's a perfect bloodline for blasters who can also melee.
If you don't like the inherent Str bonus, you can always go cross blooded with draconic, and blast even harder. And for your lvl 9 ability, choose the breath weapon instead of the inherent str bonus, and just Wish for it once you get to lvl 17.
Grandlounge
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By 1 which may or may not be meaningful depending on ability score. In a tread about the max number of attacks at full BAB on a class starting from a deficit of 5 or 10, it's a minor difference.
It's not that is not fun or interesting is just small potato's in comparison of max number of attacks at full BAB.
| zza ni |
Any full caster that can cast Emblem of Greed. Bonus points if they abuse a Coven for this.
super bonus point if he has the shapechanger 3rd level bloodline at 9th bloodline level (changes depend on how you got the bloodline, sorcerer or eldritch heritage). - last for hour\level ;)
edit: nevermind. wrong target. ability work on spells cast on one-self. this spell is cast on weapon..too bad..but if you can get the weapon to count as familiar and share spells with you..this might work
| doomman47 |
Ryze Kuja wrote:The orc bloodline does not stack with the bonus gained from manuals, wish or miracle so it is limited to being good for a few levels its not bad but I would not put it top tier without transformation and other buffs.If you want tons of attacks with good BAB, try Synthesist Summoner.
If you want a full caster with high attack, try a Orc Bloodline Sorcerer. Their BAB is only 2/4, but they make up for it with lots of strength bonuses. If you build them right, they can end up with about 30-40 Str by level 20 (but your Cha will suffer a bit).
While true that they don't stack with the stat tomes it does eventually give them a +1 more(+6 vs +5) and saves them a boat load of cash that they can spend on other things since they don't have to spend money on a str tome
| SheepishEidolon |
If you want several additional full BAB attacks, attacks of opportunity are an option. Enlarge person is a level 1 spell, the same applies to longarm. Longspear is a simple weapon, so available for most casters. Combat Reflexes is an obvious feat choice, but a Wis based caster could go Divine Fighting Technique (Torag's Patient Strike) instead - a dwarf is recommended since you must use a warhammer.
| ekibus |
Hasted, transformed, 4 armed gargoyle.
That's 7 full Bab attacks. I'm sure there are some new polymoph options that may have more natural attacks.
Given that natural attacks are at full Bab. Polymorph or wild shape seem the most likely source of many full Bab attacks.
Never heard that natural attacks are full Bab. Hmm need to do some character research
| Ryze Kuja |
If you want several additional full BAB attacks, attacks of opportunity are an option. Enlarge person is a level 1 spell, the same applies to longarm. Longspear is a simple weapon, so available for most casters. Combat Reflexes is an obvious feat choice, but a Wis based caster could go Divine Fighting Technique (Torag's Patient Strike) instead - a dwarf is recommended since you must use a warhammer.
Yeah, AoO's are great. All you need is Greater Trip, Combat Reflexes and a Fortuitous Weapon and you're in business. If you have a cheap way to get Improved Unarmed Strike, throw in Vicious Stomp for another one.