Wisp Ally rules question


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Does wisp ally benefit from the skyfire centurion's combat bond ability?
To explain further: if a skyfire centurion is bonded with a mystic and that mystic casts wisp ally does the wisp ally get the benefit of combat bond as it was cast by the mystic or does it count as its own entity, independent from the mystic, and therefore does not benefit from combat bond?


You'll probably want to put what the combat bond ability does in your post. Otherwise people without Pact Worlds won't know what you're talking about, and people who don't want to pull the book out won't be able to answer the question.


jonjonhholt wrote:

Does wisp ally benefit from the skyfire centurion's combat bond ability?

To explain further: if a skyfire centurion is bonded with a mystic and that mystic casts wisp ally does the wisp ally get the benefit of combat bond as it was cast by the mystic or does it count as its own entity, independent from the mystic, and therefore does not benefit from combat bond?

RAW, the answer would be "yes," you would gain the benefit. It should not matter if you gain the benefits of covering/harrying fire from a weapon or from a spell, you've simply gained the benefit from your ally.


JackDeth101 wrote:
jonjonhholt wrote:

Does wisp ally benefit from the skyfire centurion's combat bond ability?

To explain further: if a skyfire centurion is bonded with a mystic and that mystic casts wisp ally does the wisp ally get the benefit of combat bond as it was cast by the mystic or does it count as its own entity, independent from the mystic, and therefore does not benefit from combat bond?
RAW, the answer would be "yes," you would gain the benefit. It should not matter if you gain the benefits of covering/harrying fire from a weapon or from a spell, you've simply gained the benefit from your ally.

Ok my main point of concern comes from the fact that wisp ally specifies that the wisp ally is granting the covering/harrying fire and it is a conjured entity. Does that not matter in terms of skyfire centurion?

Also to clarify combat bond increases the bonus for covering and harrying fire for you and a specified ally(only when applying those fires to aid one another)


jonjonhholt wrote:
JackDeth101 wrote:
jonjonhholt wrote:

Does wisp ally benefit from the skyfire centurion's combat bond ability?

To explain further: if a skyfire centurion is bonded with a mystic and that mystic casts wisp ally does the wisp ally get the benefit of combat bond as it was cast by the mystic or does it count as its own entity, independent from the mystic, and therefore does not benefit from combat bond?
RAW, the answer would be "yes," you would gain the benefit. It should not matter if you gain the benefits of covering/harrying fire from a weapon or from a spell, you've simply gained the benefit from your ally.

Ok my main point of concern comes from the fact that wisp ally specifies that the wisp ally is granting the covering/harrying fire and it is a conjured entity. Does that not matter in terms of skyfire centurion?

Also to clarify combat bond increases the bonus for covering and harrying fire for you and a specified ally(only when applying those fires to aid one another)

Well, if you break down the components of the ability, you gain a +4 bonus from covering fire or harrying fire if it is provided by your bonded ally. Your ally likewise gains a +4 bonus from covering or harrying fire if it is provided by you. Your ally has two means of providing covering/harrying fire, the first being with a ranged weapon (requiring the usual rolls to succeed), or with a spell (that automatically succeeds).

As for the conjuration aspect, it doesn't specify that it is an entity (as in a living entity), just that it is a small, spherical, floating wisp, which later in the spell states it is "made of pure light and energy." Since it is not an entity in its own right, I go back to my original statement of this spell simply being a different path to providing the covering or harrying fire.

Does that help?


JackDeth101 wrote:


Well, if you break down the components of the ability, you gain a +4 bonus from covering fire or harrying fire if it is provided by your bonded ally. Your ally likewise gains a +4 bonus from covering or harrying fire if it is provided by you. Your ally has two means of providing covering/harrying fire, the first being with a ranged weapon (requiring the usual rolls to succeed), or with a spell (that automatically succeeds).

As for the conjuration aspect, it doesn't specify that it is an entity (as in a living entity), just that it is a small, spherical, floating wisp, which later in the spell states it is "made of pure light and energy." Since it is not an entity in its own right, I go back to my original statement of this spell simply being a different path to providing the covering or harrying fire.

Does that help?

Yes! Thank you for the clarification!


jonjonhholt wrote:
JackDeth101 wrote:


Well, if you break down the components of the ability, you gain a +4 bonus from covering fire or harrying fire if it is provided by your bonded ally. Your ally likewise gains a +4 bonus from covering or harrying fire if it is provided by you. Your ally has two means of providing covering/harrying fire, the first being with a ranged weapon (requiring the usual rolls to succeed), or with a spell (that automatically succeeds).

As for the conjuration aspect, it doesn't specify that it is an entity (as in a living entity), just that it is a small, spherical, floating wisp, which later in the spell states it is "made of pure light and energy." Since it is not an entity in its own right, I go back to my original statement of this spell simply being a different path to providing the covering or harrying fire.

Does that help?

Yes! Thank you for the clarification!

You're welcome!

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