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The Skald get's Spell Keening at level 5, and Scribe Scroll at level 1.
At 5th level, a skald is learned in the magic of other spellcasters, and can use his own magic to duplicate those classes’ spells. Once per day, a skald can cast any spell on the bard, cleric, or sorcerer/wizard spell list as if it were one of his skald spells known, expending a skald spell slot of the same spell level to cast the desired spell.
Benefit: You can create a scroll of any spell that you know. Scribing a scroll takes 2 hours if its base price is 250 gp or less, otherwise scribing a scroll takes 1 day for each 1,000 gp in its base price. To scribe a scroll, you must use up raw materials costing half of this base price.
Can we use spell keening in conjunction with scribe scroll due to the line in spell keening "as if it were one of his skald spells known"?
"once per day, a skald can cast any spell on the bard, cleric, or sorcerer/wizard spell list as if it were one of his skald spells known,"
he can only cast it. nothing else.
Kenning, not Keening. Kenning refers to the historical use of metaphorical names for things in the norse epic poetry, which of course the Skald class is inspired by.
The ability says you can cast the spell as if it were a spell known. It doesn't say it becomes a spell known. Scroll creation doesn't say you have to be able to cast it, it says you have to know the spell. I'm not sure.
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"once per day, a skald can cast any spell on the bard, cleric, or sorcerer/wizard spell list as if it were one of his skald spells known,"
he can only cast it. nothing else.
Fortunately, being able to cast the spell is enough.
The creator must have prepared the spell to be scribed (or must know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any material component or focus the spell requires. A material component is consumed when she begins writing, but a focus is not. (A focus used in scribing a scroll can be reused.) The act of writing triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting until the character has rested and regained spells. (That is, that spell slot is expended from the caster’s currently prepared spells, just as if it had been cast.)
Spell Kenning says cast as if it were a spell known. Creating Scrolls says know the spell and use the spell slot as if it had been cast. The pieces line up.
The only argument left is whether those pieces line up exactly. I have had that argument about exact phrasing before (Skald Spell Kenning and Magus Wand Spellstrike) in March 2016 and it was not resolved then. It came down to GM choice. Fortunately, I was the GM, asking to find good options for my player.
I let the skald in my Iron Gods campaign scribe scrolls and craft wands with spells from Spell Kenning. It worked out fine.
I apologize for the typo, I wrote the question pretty late but that's no excuse. Thank you for the answers, and the creating scrolls section clarification.
or must know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard
The skald does not know the spell, ergo no. (Heading off the "a skald is neither a sorcerer nor a bard" arguments, if you go that route then we'll have a lot more problems with other spontaneous classes, such as oracle. Plus, that would mean the skald must prepare the spell, which a skald cannot do.)
Here's a somewhat relevant question-
If the GM allows a skald to Scribe a kenned spell, can he scribe a scroll of the kenned spell, if the scroll takes more than a day to scribe?
The scribing scrolls rules said, "The act of writing triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting until the character has rested and regained spells." Thus, scribing the scroll uses up one prepared spell (or one spell slot for a known spell). There is no stated need to spend a second spell for a second day of scribing.
In contrast, the rules for crafting wands say, "The act of working on the wand triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting during each day devoted to the wand's creation," so wand crafting needs a fresh spell each day.
Once per day, a skald can cast any spell on the bard, cleric, or sorcerer/wizard spell list as if it were one of his skald spells known, expending a skald spell slot of the same spell level to cast the desired spell.
the importent part
Once per day, a skald can cast any spell on the bard, cleric, or sorcerer/wizard spell list as if it were one of his skald spells known
the skald don't know the spell he can only cast it once per day as if it was a spell know.
from scribe scroll
You can create a scroll of any spell that you know.
the skald do not know the spell. he can only cast it
Here's a somewhat relevant question-
If the GM allows a skald to Scribe a kenned spell, can he scribe a scroll of the kenned spell, if the scroll takes more than a day to scribe?The scribing scrolls rules said, "The act of writing triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting until the character has rested and regained spells." Thus, scribing the scroll uses up one prepared spell (or one spell slot for a known spell). There is no stated need to spend a second spell for a second day of scribing.
In contrast, the rules for crafting wands say, "The act of working on the wand triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting during each day devoted to the wand's creation," so wand crafting needs a fresh spell each day.
You're still writing on the second day. You'll need to "cast" it again.