Holy / Unholy on same weapon


Rules Questions


A player wants to make a holy/unholy weapon. Is that allowed? The thread that I found on this was very not super helpful and kinda old

(http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lq30?HolyUnholy-Quality#1)

My thought is heck no... the weapon is "imbued with Holy/Unholy power" so both cant be placed on the same weapon.....

Thanks


I'll go with your Heck No! response

Sovereign Court

You can do it.

You would have to be Neutral in order to avoid the Negative Level.

You could even go further and throw Axiomatic and Chaotic on it. You now would have to be True Neutral to hold it without getting a Negative Level, but it is doable.

The World Serpent Spirit Rage Power is about effectively doing exactly that.


How would you make it? You must be good to make a Holy Weapon and Evil to make an unHoly one. And how could a weapon be Good Aligned and Evil Aligned etc at the same time?


Powers can be added to an item after it's been created. So, Good aligned crafter puts holy on it. The some time later an Evil aligned crafter puts unholy on it. Or the crafter could just increase the DC to make it w/o being any specfic alignment.

It's a similar argument about putting both flaming and frost on a weapon. There's nothing in the rules that say you can't do it, but many dm's won't allow you to enchant a weapon with diametrically opposed energies on a weapon. So, no flaming/frost, no holy/unholy, no chaotic/axiomatic.

Weirdly, no one ever has a problem combining thundering, corrosive and shocking with other types, even each other.

as for items being 2 opposed alignments. The horn of Goodness/Evil is technically one item.


The Horn of Goodness/Evil casts one of two spells but isn't aligned when it does so.
There are plenty of examples in the Rules of Good and Evil not being able to coexist but I can't think of any examples showing that they can.


There's no mechanic stopping someone from making a holy unholy weapon. For that matter, I've never met a single GM that wouldn't let someone put flaming and frost on a weapon.

That said, from a player perspective, holy and unholy are pretty terrible enhancements to stack on the same weapon since they're expensive and pretty much never apply at the same time.


I'd say you can basically take a double edged sword, and enchant it left and right with the opposites. By reversing your grip, or taking a backswing, you use the other edge.

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