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Yeh, I'm fumbling with explaining it, but you're getting it.
So with a Paladin, an extreme/poor DM will jump all over a Paladin that lies, or for that matter, using the Bluff skill.
Uh...
Bad example. It actually outright says in the Paladin code that a Paladin cannot lie. If you like, you are SUPPOSED to lose your powers if you like.
Even once.
False. The allegiance for Paladins of Torag say, among other things:
"I am at all times truthful, honorable, and forthright, but my allegiance is to my people. I will do what is necessary to serve them, including misleading others if need be."
So it's deity based, even within Pathfinder 1e, which is not the only paladin that exists.
Common misperception.
PF1 deity Paladin codes are additive, not replacing. They still have to follow every part of the main code. They (Torag Pallies) can mislead, but still can't lie.
"including misleading" does not mean "misleading, and only misleading". Maybe it's my fault, because I did not bold the right part. Will try to do better:
I am at all times truthful, honorable, and forthright, but my allegiance is to my people. I will do what is necessary to serve them, including misleading others if need be.
Also I made a quick search about synonyms for mislead, just in case my English was getting rusty, and I found what I expected.
delude, cheat, deceive, defraud, cozen, bilk, take in, overreach, outwit, ensnare, trick , enmesh, entangle, victimize, lure, beguile, inveigle, hoax, dupe, gull, bait, misrepresent, bluff, give a bum steer, throw off the scent, lead one on a merry chase, bamboozle, scam, humbug, hoodwink, put someone on, lie , double-cross, be ambiguous
Which sounds like
Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.
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Splitting hairs. If the Strong Goodlier Force is this picky about wording, the Hellknights would just ask in such a way as to force the Paladin into a lie of omission or a lie of assent. Rest assured that the Chelish barristers know the technique well.
Ah I see its the classic Bad DM dilemma. They really do have to go and ruin it for the rest of us. If its not spelled out clearly baddm will screw us over. People really need to start just punching the guy. (I keed. a little. about the violence. but really punch him!)
It does look like an interesting mechanic I will need to see more before I have a definite opinion and Already I know I'll have to make house rules for an extended list of non Golarion deities but I'm used to that.
It's NOT that narrow. It could be bad DM's, or bad players looking to game the system or genuine disagreements on what a vague restriction covers [or ANY combination of the three]. Alignment is just so vague and offers NO guidance on intent vs action so it engenders divergent outlooks depending on which you give more 'weight' to.
So saying "its the classic Bad DM dilemma" is really missing the point.
Fair enough but I still think you should punch him!
So your request is to either define it better or drop it right? I can get behind the idea if defining it better for people that don't have a good grasp of it. Its not a problem I have but if some people are having trouble understanding it then sure put some better definitions and explanation of it in the book.