@Red
Well, Patenemheb didn't start foaming at the mouth at the mention of magic or of Red receiving revelations from the Red Sphinx. If he follows the Star God, he either has incredible self-control, is being deceptive, or is in a "live and let live" attitude.
We will have to get back to theology later. If there is a later. :(
If Patenemheb is really interested in all religions, talking to Red, who has experienced personal divine revelation, should transfix him. Unless he thinks she is a total nutcase that is.
Dain, I don't know that this applies in the current situation, but it doesn't hurt to ask! Caslav has:
Tunnelrunner (Ex) At 2nd level, a cave druid can move through areas of rubble or narrow passages that require squeezing at her normal movement rate and without penalty. This ability replaces woodland stride.
If you rule this applies, Cas will move a further 15 feet west along the wall :)
Dain, also is there currently any difficult terrain in the canyon? Cas picked up the Acrobatic Steps feat when we levelled, allowing him to move normally through up to 20 feet of difficult terrain per round. Just trying to figure out my movement options, as it looks like it'll be pretty important in this combat!
Hey guys I'm sorry but I'm going to withdraw from the game. I'm not really feeling it and was planning on dropping once we got to the city. I apologize for doing this right before combat but I feel the group, game, and DM deserve engaged players that have bought into the story/game. Best of luck.
Patenemheb does not currently have any ranged weapons. So I'll have to find other ways he can contribute to the combat. Wise Counse, i.e. spotting enemies for our archers, rushing to heal the wounded, that sort of thing.
Remember, you could elect to try to use Total Defense until something else presents itself. Also, if Wise Council is a Full Round Action or even a Standard Action it might be something you can use in combat, provided you don't do anything else but move (like Bardic Performance) but I'm not sure as I haven't read the rule on it - let me know either way what you plan on doing. Currently you're sitting on the camel...
We are all working on the assumption out camels are not trained for combat. Is this right?
Correct. I have not seen rules for a "War Trained" camel, but I would assume that as a War Trained Horse is more expensive then a War Trained Camel would also be. So yes; these are just normal domesticated Riding Camels.
If you rule this applies, Cas will move a further 15 feet west along the wall :)
Not sure if this would apply specifically; however, currently you are moving through the "space" occupied by your camels. As such, you are moving through "Friendly" space and can do so at your normal movement rate so long as you don't end your turn on top of their space.
However, as you end up on their space I’m ruling you can’t move the full 30 feet this round. However you are at Partial Cover behind them.
Dain, also is there currently any difficult terrain in the canyon? Cas picked up the Acrobatic Steps feat when we levelled, allowing him to move normally through up to 20 feet of difficult terrain per round. Just trying to figure out my movement options, as it looks like it'll be pretty important in this combat!
Yes; the rocks on lines B/C are both considered difficult. You could move over them the same way as you could move through difficult terrain.
However, the width of the canyon is 20 feet. Your camels take up a 10x10 space - the marching orders had them in the center, so you could move down the sides of your camels as there is 5 Feet of space between them and the canyon walls.
This would be like moving past comrades in a tunnel (theoretically) but it shouldn't be considered "Formally" difficult terrain, though it may seem difficult via how you wrote the narrative with issues such as tight squeezes and so on.
Hey guys I'm sorry but I'm going to withdraw from the game. I'm not really feeling it and was planning on dropping once we got to the city. I apologize for doing this right before combat but I feel the group, game, and DM deserve engaged players that have bought into the story/game. Best of luck.
I'm sorry you didn't buy into the story/game, though it was nice playing you. I hope you have a good experience wherever you choose to game next.
QUESTION: Anyone want to Bot Lyssander the next round? I can continue to do it if you prefer; just let me know either way. Thanks!
Unfortunately I have trouble keeping my own math straight, So I am going to defer 'botting' Lysander to you sir :-)
Thanks for the info on the 'point blank shot.' How high up are they? Maybe we can calculate how close Ala'Ihys needs to be to get his 'point blank shot' bonus. It's looking like they will need a lot of arrows in them, so he will have time to slowly move up...
The guys in front of you are currently about 5 feet off the ground.
Easily able to leap down and assail you when they attack.
Right now we wait on Bjeorn, but not long - I worked another 11 hour day today, and I have to do a training at 7:00 AM tomorrow (RE: 6.5 hours from now); if he doesn't act, naturally I can have him do a Total Defense on his turn - unless someone else wants to bot him?
This assumes he does not act soon, that is...
Eleven hours? Ouch!
I'll post shortly, apologies for my delay.
I can just go bard-like with Wise Counsel, though not using other actions.
Wise Counsel (Ex): As a full round action, the scholar can aid an ally and grant an insight bonus equal to the scholar’s Wis bonus on the check.
Okay - well, it is now 4:55 AM - I woke up early to get this post done so you guys could do things during the day while I'm gone.
He has not yet posted, but he mentioned something about being gone for 40 hours or something - that said, I will post for Bjeorn. Paten, you are currently on your camel, so if you get off your camel for cover, that would be safe - but you won't be able to use Wise Council until next round.
If you stay on your camel, who will you aid?
Paten will aid Samir.
Edit: Posted.
No improved critical? We might just survive this! :D
Dain, I asked this last round, but you may have missed it: What time of day is it currently in game, please?
That is using the Fortune Hex on the guy with the long black hair and scarf, sorry I don't know who who it is, and begins to Cackle. Since it is the first time I have used either rules follow.
Red, the guy with the long hair and scarf is Sefu.
Check out the campaign info page - Dain put up pics of Sefu, Yetara and Daniya.
Wow, thanks Ariarh, that is NOT what I expected Daniya to look like!
I had the same reaction. ;) Ha.
Dain, I asked this last round, but you may have missed it: What time of day is it currently in game, please?
It should be nearing to noon - though not quite there. Consider it roughly 11:45 - theoretically you would be stopping for camp in about a half hour to eat.
So I've been asked this by several people now; honestly, I'm not entirely sure how to proceed as the Core Rules aren't that clear.
So here's what I'm going to do -
The ability is based on the Player. If a Player elects to use a skill that they are the most comfortable with then they can make the choice; be it Bluff or Stealth or (possibly) Sleight of Hand or Disguise (potentially).
Whatever skill you use the enemy will be able to use the appropriate skill to determine it. So, for example, if you used Stealth the Enemy would use Perception - but if you used Bluff the Enemy would use Sense Motive.
The only caveat I've seen for concealing such actions does come in the classification under Bluff which states:
Action: You attempt the Bluff check as part of performing the action you wish to render inconspicuous. Normally, you must take twice as long as normal to perform the action in order to make it inconspicuous. A standard action becomes a full-round action completed just before the start of your next turn and a free, immediate, move, or swift action becomes a standard action.
Check: Your Bluff check is opposed by observers’ Sense Motive checks. You can’t attempt the check if your very presence is suspicious (which you could prevent by altering your appearance with the Disguise skill).
In this case the idea being that if you're using a Magical Ability in combat and you wish to keep it subtle you can do it, but it's more challenging than it would normally be because you're being subtle - hence the delay to the action.
This seems like a reasonable nuance as you'd normally not be able to use a Spell and Skill in the same Standard Action; but in this case you can.
NEITHER. WOA
NEITHER. WOA
I assume you're referring to Daniya - and I know, it's true; she does look like a waifish, eighteen year old girl with long robes and a hood which obfuscates much of her features; but I attempted to hint at the fact that despite her status as a virgin it's clear that she is someone who knows how to tempt/beguile someone by behaving in a somewhat seductive way (I know; it's subtle, but if you look closely I think her pic gives the impression of someone who's able to use their looks and body language to manipulate people).
Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the pics so far :)
@Dain: The pictures certainly set the mood well!
Also, Samir should have had a +4 insight bonus to that climb check from Patenemheb's prior use of Wise Counsel, so hopefully he should be further along his ascent. And has Patenemheb gotten a chance to get to the canyon wall?
My reaction to Daniya's picture is best conveyed by Devo:-
"She sings from somewhere you can't see
She sits in the top of the greenest tree
She sends out an aroma of undefined love
It drips on down in a mist from above
You hear her calling everywhere you turn
You know you're headed for the pleasure burn
But the words get stuck on the tip of your tongue
She's the real thing but you knew it all along
Look at you with your mouth watering
Look at you with your mind spinning
Why don't we just admit it's all over
She's just the girl you want"
I always thought the first verse went "unrefined lust" rather than "undefined love". Which may even be better.
Aye!
In another game, I saw lyrics quote from an "I" track which I think suits the tone of World of Xoth well.
Dain, I think doubling casting time to make casting inconspicuous via Bluff is a fair trade off; I'll use that from now on :)
@Dain: The pictures certainly set the mood well!
Also, Samir should have had a +4 insight bonus to that climb check from Patenemheb's prior use of Wise Counsel, so hopefully he should be further along his ascent. And has Patenemheb gotten a chance to get to the canyon wall?
Paten - the wall is before you on the Combat Map and it should be designed so you can move your icon on the map individually.
Generally what I prefer is for a player to tell me via posting where they want to move (as in; I want to move to B:12, for example) then they move their icon on the map.
For your character in particular you are mounted on your camel; you need to dismount - but, given that you are literally 5 feet from the canyon wall dismounting next to the canyon wall should be easy enough.
Via the Climb Check; I will definitely keep that in mind for the future. But accelerated climbing only allows you to swap your Climb Speed from a quarter of your movement to half - so if he succeeds next round he'll be up another 15 feet, making him 30 feet up.
This assumes he's not hit by rocks and forced to fall the 30 feet to the ground below with heavy rocks on top of him :)
My reaction to Daniya's picture is best conveyed by Devo:-
"She sings from somewhere you can't see
She sits in the top of the greenest tree
She sends out an aroma of undefined love
It drips on down in a mist from aboveYou hear her calling everywhere you turn
You know you're headed for the pleasure burn
But the words get stuck on the tip of your tongue
She's the real thing but you knew it all alongLook at you with your mouth watering
Look at you with your mind spinning
Why don't we just admit it's all over
She's just the girl you want"I always thought the first verse went "unrefined lust" rather than "undefined love". Which may even be better.
I just assumed that "I'm just a girl in the world" seemed to fit her :)
Dain, I think doubling casting time to make casting inconspicuous via Bluff is a fair trade off; I'll use that from now on :)
Remember, it doesn't formally "Double it" - it merely moves it over one step. So Swift becomes Move, Move becomes Standard, Standard becomes Full Round.
Ah, understood. I've moved him to U4.
@Dain
I hope that things have improved for you since yesterday.
Dain, I hope you're doing better, today. *Hugs*
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Bjoern, you may have missed this post from the GM:
I need Ala, Bjeorn, Paten and Red to make a Reflex Save of 20 or take 22 Damage - success means 11 damage - you are all currently Prone.
I will post in gameplay in 2-3 hours.
Dain, does all Light armor grant DR 1?
Dain- My character is on the verge of dying so I want to be careful about my next turn.
I could try climbing the wall, but don't know what the surface is like so what DC I face. And I am rolling at -1. Also,I can start climbing the wall from a prone position, yes?
Second, I could stand and try to move out of the stampede. But it is more than 30 feet to get out, so I would take damage from another round in the stampede I suppose.
I could try to put one of the stampeding camels to sleep and if I succeed use it for cover. I am just not sure how that will work.
This is a very lethal situation.
Actually I did not, I rolled, badly and as my actions stood up and moved. Somehow the post got eaten.
At the moment I am also a bit topsy turvy.
Am a bit shocked. Just got sacked from work. In my holiday.
I'm sorry about your unexpected dismissal, Bjoern. Lousy it happened during your holiday. I hope you'll be okay.
My condolences, Helikon, that's terrible...
Am a bit shocked. Just got sacked from work. In my holiday.
That sucks. Hope things work out soon.
That is bad news!
I hope that you receive better news soon.
Am a bit shocked. Just got sacked from work. In my holiday.
That is rough. Really, really rough. I also hope you'll be okay until you get back on your feet.
Especially after we took such an expensive trip.
Although I was trying to find something better anyway.
Two things -
1. The stampede has slammed up against the rocks. Most of the camels are injured and crushed up against the far wall; they aren't charging anywhere at this time, so anyone in that group can get out of the press of camels as if they were getting out of "Difficult Terrain"; but staying in the group does not result in anything more damaging unless they're provoked to charge again.
Red; you can climb from Prone, but it would be better to use a Move Action to stand and your Standard Action to climb as you can only climb 1/4 of your overland movement; in this case it rounds down to 5 Feet via rules (unless you want to do accelerated climbing). The DC for normal climbing on this wall is 15 - for accelerated it's 20 (if you do accelerated you can move half your overland speed).
2. Bjeorn: I'm terribly sorry for what happened to you at your work situation. I don't know what we can do to help, but if there's anything that you need, please let us know.
Dain- My character is on the verge of dying so I want to be careful about my next turn.
I could try climbing the wall, but don't know what the surface is like so what DC I face. And I am rolling at -1. Also,I can start climbing the wall from a prone position, yes?
Second, I could stand and try to move out of the stampede. But it is more than 30 feet to get out, so I would take damage from another round in the stampede I suppose.
I could try to put one of the stampeding camels to sleep and if I succeed use it for cover. I am just not sure how that will work.
This is a very lethal situation.
At this time I will be acting for Red as the game has been on hold until she acted.
Meanwhile, Bjeorn, I forgot to mention earlier that your Armor does provide a DR of 2 to the stampede.
Red; given that you asked to Climb I will follow your last request.
You are able to stand up as part of your Move Action and attempt to Climb.
I'll have the NPC moves up soon.
Dain- My post asking some questions was up for about 12 hours before you answered, and then you acted for my character about 12 hours later. Most of those 12 hours I was asleep [time zones, I am in Australia].
I was checking the site for a response, but the only way I would have seen your post is if I checked just before going to bed. I think I looked just before you posted a reply.
And I still don't know what the surface of the wall right next to me is like, so I can figure out what the DC of the climb check was.
Then you had my character do something completely stupid, well likely. So far as I know the chance to climb the wall is zero, my climb is not good.
What I want to do is stand and use the healing hex on myself. Can I post that?
Dain- My post asking some questions was up for about 12 hours before you answered, and then you acted for my character about 12 hours later. Most of those 12 hours I was asleep [time zones, I am in Australia].
I was checking the site for a response, but the only way I would have seen your post is if I checked just before going to bed. I think I looked just before you posted a reply.
And I still don't know what the surface of the wall right next to me is like, so I can figure out what the DC of the climb check was.
Then you had my character do something completely stupid, well likely. So far as I know the chance to climb the wall is zero, my climb is not good.
What I want to do is stand and use the healing hex on myself. Can I post that?
The DC to Climb was 15 - I posted that earlier today.
Specifically Any surface with adequate handholds and footholds (natural or artificial), such as a very rough natural rock surface or a tree, or an unknotted rope, or pulling yourself up when dangling by your hands.
If you would prefer to use the Healing Hex on yourself instead of Climbing that is fine.
I should point out that I will need to be at work in less than 6 hours (in short, 7:00 AM EST). I will be there for 2 hours, return home to sleep a short while, then I will have to return to work at 11:30 AM EST.
Then I will not be able to leave work until midnight - at which point I will arrive home and then have to repeat the cycle the next day - and again for the entire week.
With that in mind I botted your character only because I had hoped to sleep a short bit tomorrow between jobs, especially as I had a seizure during the weekend because of a lack of sleep and I wanted to get the actions up for the NPC's.
That said; I do my best to keep thing moving but it can be difficult.
I hope to have something up tomorrow.
See you then!
Dain- OK will post accordingly.
PBP has it's virtues, but speed of play isn't one of them. Time zones, peoples lives... it proceeds like a glacier. Patience, lots of it, is needed.