Human Paladin for PFS


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I looked at Bodhi's guide and decided on a human castigator paladin.

Str- 14 (+2 racial bonus) - 16
Dex- 12
Con- 14
Int- 10
Wis- 8
Cha- 16

Feats- Power Attack, and weapon focus, furious focus, or toughness

Traits - Defender of the society, and Omen

Weapon- Falchion
Armor- 4 mirror armor

the 4 mirror armor only gives me a 16 AC, or 17 with defender of the society. I don't know if furious focus vs. weapon focus makes a difference at first level but at later it CAN effect feats. I was thinking toughness because it would give me 16 hp when I only have a 17 AC or 16 if I switch out defender of the society.

Thoughts or recommendations?

Dark Archive

It is pretty straightforward and fine, frankly.

I wouldn't bother with Toughness personally, I reckon you can tough it out and then do your lay on hands. Just add the HP from levels for a while.

I would consider Intimidating Prowess instead.

You have taken the excellent Omen trait, so I assume you want to yell something scary at the big bad in the same round you start smiting his butt. Intimidating Prowess adds your Str to intimidation so you will make the DCs. And it is funny.

Bad news: you can't take Defender of the Society, it is Fighter only, or everyone would take it. The only Society trait you can take is Stalwart of the Society, and it is crap.

Magical Lineage is a good one. +2 to caster levels. Paladin starts 4 behind. This will be a welcome boost to your spells when you get them. Good for things like Divine Favor.


Do you mean magical knack? Magical lineage lets u treat a spell as one level lower when apply metamagic feats.

Dark Archive

Yeah, that one. Magical Lineage would be useless.


I would actually recommend Extremely Fashionable from Ultimate Equipment for Intimidate as a class skill, and a +1 bonus on Intimidate and Diplomacy.

Fey Foundling is a favorite on this site for its added healing power, but it must be taken at 1st level, and it has great background synergy with magical knack.

Stats look fine, I would personally drop WIS to 7 for the extra points to pump into STR so I could have an 18 by lvl 4, but to each his own.

Furious Focus is a great feat, I would definitely recommend it over weapon focus to start.

Honestly, you could even get away with dropping your CON to 12 or 13 for even more points to put into DEX so you can wear lighter armors and have more speed. The feat combo Greater Mercy along with Fey foundling will net you more added HP than Toughness or an extra point of CON will at 3rd level.

I always like to point out Unsanctioned Knowledge as a thing, but it requires an INT of 13 to use, which can be taxing on human builds, but I usually like having a higher INT anyway because I am a fan of intimidate builds.

Speaking of which, Furious Focus and Cornugon Smash are pretty useful feats.

Grand Lodge

Consider a level of oracle of lore for the side step revelation (Cha to AC & Reflex) instead of dex then you double Cha to reflex when your Pali gets to level 2

Str 18 (human +2)
Dex 7
Con 14
Int 13
Wis 8
Cha 18 (human +2)

sacrifice the feat and extra skills for a charisma of 18 which will also add to your AC and saves


Just remember:
FOR GLORY!--and goodness.

Liberty's Edge

Fey Foundling is a must-have, much more so than Power Attack.


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Humphry B ManWitch wrote:
Consider a level of oracle of lore for the side step revelation (Cha to AC & Reflex) instead of dex then you double Cha to reflex when your Pali gets to level 2

The problem with doing this is that you are still limited to your armours max dex bonus so utlimately you will be tanking your AC in order to increase your reflex save.

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Keep a copy of Faiths of Purity handy, and follow a god with an unrelenting Paladin Code, that way you can rebuff calls to make you fall when all you're doing is fighting the enemy.

Sarenrae and Torag are decent choices. YMMV.

Grand Lodge

andreww wrote:
Humphry B ManWitch wrote:
Consider a level of oracle of lore for the side step revelation (Cha to AC & Reflex) instead of dex then you double Cha to reflex when your Pali gets to level 2
The problem with doing this is that you are still limited to your armours max dex bonus so utlimately you will be tanking your AC in order to increase your reflex save.

so wear mithral armour or celestial armour

at third level with a CHA of 18 you will have

Fort +10
Ref +8
Will +7

not shabby

AC 20 will be with mithral breastplate armour


Defender of the society only works on fighters. It is useless on a Paladin.

I second the nomination for Fey Foundling. That will pay some serious dividends on keeping you alive.

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drbuzzard wrote:

Defender of the society only works on fighters. It is useless on a Paladin.

I second the nomination for Fey Foundling. That will pay some serious dividends on keeping you alive.

All of those d6s on your LOH will thank you!


I have decided if I tank a score it'll be intelligence and ONLY intelligence. Is it better to take dual talent and up charisma and strength, or get power attack? And should I up charisma or strength to 18?


STR>CHA>>CON=DEX>INT>>WIS

This is what your stats should roughly look like.

I would suggest starting with Fey Foundling and Power Attack. Greater Mercy should be your third lvl feat.

Also, make sure you take the Oath of Vengence archetype. There are other good archetypes too, but this gives you the more straigh-forward way to play your paladin.


I think I'm gonna drop the dual talent to get a feat back and drop charisma to a 16. This way I maximize damage and have a hittable AC so I'm not ignored. I have a +4 to hit, +9 to damage, 17 AC, +3 Fort, +1 Ref, +0 will and a charisma bonus of +3


zauriel56 wrote:
I think I'm gonna drop the dual talent to get a feat back and drop charisma to a 16. This way I maximize damage and have a hittable AC so I'm not ignored. I have a +4 to hit, +9 to damage, 17 AC, +3 Fort, +1 Ref, +0 will and a charisma bonus of +3

So what does your revised stat line look like?

Silver Crusade

I suggest leaving WIS at 10, get at least a 12 in your Dex, you will make use of it frequently. (also, +1 ref doesn't hurt)


I believe you need to be a fighter to benefit from the defender of the society trait.


My revised stats look like
Str - 18
Dex - 12
Con - 12
Int - 10
Wis - 7 (this one makes me sad)
Cha - 16

Traits: Omen and Magical Knack (Paladin)
Feats: Fey Foundling and Power Attack


It is a great stat allocation thought. The wisdom dump will no longer be an issue after the first few lvls.


XMorsX wrote:
The wisdom dump will no longer be an issue after the first lvl.

Fixed it.

I would honestly say you could get away with a 15 CHA and use your stat bumps in it for the rest of your character. 18 STR is enough and that gives you 2 extra points to play with and put where you like, even in WIS for an 8.

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