Wouldn't divinations reveal the filed off serial numbers, if not a great deal more about the weapons' new owners?
Smarter people would just scrap them for UPBs.Smart people would scrap off serial numbers.One big difference between Pathfinder and Starfinder in selling used weapons and armor is serial numbers.
Big Bad Evil Guy get's a report that one of his low level operations was eradicated. Calls around, and asks to be notified if anyone dumps 30 or so sets of xxx armor, yyy pistols and zzz rifles.
BBEG gets a call two days later, provided images of the those that sold the gear to a fence - confirms the serial numbers.
Puts hit out on the PCs.
Or turn it around: Police are investigating the brazen robbery and murder fest at XXXX corps. All the staff were left naked where they fell, obviously stripped of everything.
A round to the fences, and bingo, PC images and names (or handles) provided to the police.
You don't think that with high tech, it would be a tad more challenging to remove serial numbers than simply filing them off? Not embedded in the matrix of the object?
As for scraping them for UPBs, it is interesting that at the end of the process of doing that, you end up with 10% of the sale value of the item?
:)
Smarter people would just scrap them for UPBs.Smart people would scrap off serial numbers.One big difference between Pathfinder and Starfinder in selling used weapons and armor is serial numbers.
Big Bad Evil Guy get's a report that one of his low level operations was eradicated. Calls around, and asks to be notified if anyone dumps 30 or so sets of xxx armor, yyy pistols and zzz rifles.
BBEG gets a call two days later, provided images of the those that sold the gear to a fence - confirms the serial numbers.
Puts hit out on the PCs.
Or turn it around: Police are investigating the brazen robbery and murder fest at XXXX corps. All the staff were left naked where they fell, obviously stripped of everything.
A round to the fences, and bingo, PC images and names (or handles) provided to the police.
You don't think that with high tech, it would be a tad more challenging to remove serial numbers than simply filing them off? Not embedded in the matrix of the object?
As for scraping them for UPBs, it is interesting that at the end of the process of doing that, you end up with 10% of the sale value of the item?
:)
Yeah, you end up with the same value as selling it and it can't be traced back. Perfect solution.
The BBEG often do not need serial numbers to know the PC are the ones challenging him.
Increasing the amount players can sell items for is self-defeating as it then obliges you to decrease the amount of loot the party finds if you want to maintain game balance. It might garner some player goodwill the first time they sell something but it the long run you are giving them less fun in terms of loot.
It is already a struggle to equip custom NPCs with weapons and armour appropriate to their CR without exceeding the wealth per encounter guidelines as it is
Increasing the amount players can sell items for is self-defeating as it then obliges you to decrease the amount of loot the party finds if you want to maintain game balance. It might garner some player goodwill the first time they sell something but it the long run you are giving them less fun in terms of loot.
It is already a struggle to equip custom NPCs with weapons and armour appropriate to their CR without exceeding the wealth per encounter guidelines as it is
Keep in mind that gear included as loot from NPCs is figured as 10% of value rather than its full value for the purposes of WBL.
Keep in mind that gear included as loot from NPCs is figured as 10% of value rather than its full value for the purposes of WBL.
Also that technically NPCs don't use their weapon/armor to calculate their attacks/defenses. It makes creating an NPC to be a threat without giving them epic loot much easier.
Only for the stuff that is weaker than the PCs' gear, or otherwise unlikely to be used as anything but vendor trash. Which, admittedly, *should* be the majority of enemy gear. . . but you still need to be cautious. At the very least, all batteries, grenades, and serums should probably count full.Also, consider the possibility your players may find unconventional usages for vendor trash. Level 1 laser rifles and armor should count as vendor trash right quick. . . but imagine your PCs just kind of stockpile them in a storeroom, and don't get around to selling them ( since selling them isn't worth much ). Any future adventure involving endangered NPCs, like the proverbial "defenseless village attacked by bandits", has to account for the possibility of "The PCs arm the defenseless victims with a small war's worth of guns". Sure, they might be only level 1 laser rifles and light armor, but converting two dozen helpless victims into two dozen armed militia can make a huge difference.
Also, a mechanic with the correct trick can turn a pile of laser pistols into a pile of grenades, and is the bombard soldier's best friend.
Keep in mind that gear included as loot from NPCs is figured as 10% of value rather than its full value for the purposes of WBL.Also that technically NPCs don't use their weapon/armor to calculate their attacks/defenses. It makes creating an NPC to be a threat without giving them epic loot much easier.
Well, they do for weapons just as much as PCs do, unless you give them a natural attack
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Well, they do for weapons just as much as PCs do, unless you give them a natural attackKeep in mind that gear included as loot from NPCs is figured as 10% of value rather than its full value for the purposes of WBL.Also that technically NPCs don't use their weapon/armor to calculate their attacks/defenses. It makes creating an NPC to be a threat without giving them epic loot much easier.
By my understanding of the NPC rules this isn't entirely correct. Damage is determined by CR and type of NPC. Forgive me, I don't have the book in front of me so im about to mangle what their official types are but they are roughly, fighter, caster & specialist (rogue type). The damage just so happens to coincide with most CR appropriate weapons in their range but not always and they get a bonus to damage based on Type and CR. The damage is listed in the stat block when you build it.
I believe the building rules are open ended enough for you to choose to tie the damage to the actual weapon but it is not necessarily always so.
Well, they do for weapons just as much as PCs do, unless you give them a natural attackKeep in mind that gear included as loot from NPCs is figured as 10% of value rather than its full value for the purposes of WBL.Also that technically NPCs don't use their weapon/armor to calculate their attacks/defenses. It makes creating an NPC to be a threat without giving them epic loot much easier.By my understanding of the NPC rules this isn't entirely correct. Damage is determined by CR and type of NPC. Forgive me, I don't have the book in front of me so im about to mangle what their official types are but they are roughly, fighter, caster & specialist (rogue type). The damage just so happens to coincide with most CR appropriate weapons in their range but not always and they get a bonus to damage based on Type and CR. The damage is listed in the stat block when you build it.
I believe the building rules are open ended enough for you to choose to tie the damage to the actual weapon but it is not necessarily always so.
RAW if you give them a weapon they use that weapons damage dice+CR+str for melee or damage dice+CR for ranged, with all of the relevant rules for that weapon.
The combat stat tables are just for natural or integrated attacks such as claws or spitting or whatever.
Well, they do for weapons just as much as PCs do, unless you give them a natural attackKeep in mind that gear included as loot from NPCs is figured as 10% of value rather than its full value for the purposes of WBL.Also that technically NPCs don't use their weapon/armor to calculate their attacks/defenses. It makes creating an NPC to be a threat without giving them epic loot much easier.By my understanding of the NPC rules this isn't entirely correct. Damage is determined by CR and type of NPC. Forgive me, I don't have the book in front of me so im about to mangle what their official types are but they are roughly, fighter, caster & specialist (rogue type). The damage just so happens to coincide with most CR appropriate weapons in their range but not always and they get a bonus to damage based on Type and CR. The damage is listed in the stat block when you build it.
I believe the building rules are open ended enough for you to choose to tie the damage to the actual weapon but it is not necessarily always so.
RAW if you give them a weapon they use that weapons damage dice+CR+str for melee or damage dice+CR for ranged, with all of the relevant rules for that weapon.
The combat stat tables are just for natural or integrated attacks such as claws or spitting or whatever.
well that would make more sense. Its been a minute since I went over those. Ill have to give them another read over to refresh. Do you happen to know what page that is referenced?
well that would make more sense. Its been a minute since I went over those. Ill have to give them another read over to refresh. Do you happen to know what page that is referenced?
I just found it, pg. 128.
You do have to give humanoid types a CR appropriate weapon.