Spell-Like Abilities from Traits, Arcane or Divine? (PFS)


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The FAQ states that PC SLA's from race/type are considered arcane unless the spell it emulates is not on the wizard spell list, and SLA's from a class are the same as whatever spells the class normally casts.

My paladin has the trait Chosen of Iomedae, which grants light as an SLA. Should that be considered an arcane spell or a divine spell? It isn't granted by my race, as any follower of Iomedae can take the trait, and it isn't from the paladin class. As it is a spell that can be divine, and is gained by a faith trait, I think it should be divine, but I don't know if there is any definite ruling on that.

(Basically I want to use the Chosen of Iomedae/Divine Warrior combo for +1 to damage rolls for 20 min/level, but I want to double check that it does work as it seems. If the light SLA is divine, then casting it on a sword counts a divine spell that affects a weapon, triggering Divine Warrior. If not, I still have a handy flashlight and free masterwork weapon, so I'm not too upset.)


Have no answer to your inquiry. Just want to point out that it is 20 minutes per day, not per level. Looks like iomeda trait SLA is CL 1, not CL=LVL


toastedamphibian wrote:
Have no answer to your inquiry. Just want to point out that it is 20 minutes per day, not per level. Looks like iomeda trait SLA is CL 1, not CL=LVL

Oh, yeah. Still hope it works, 20 minutes is plenty of time.

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FAQ


James Risner wrote:
FAQ

That is not helpful. As the OP mentioned, that tells you about SLA's from Race and Class. It gives no guidance about SLA's gained from feats or traits.

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It gives a general rule:

Quote:
the creature's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order.

The only time it deviates from this is for SLA from a class. So use this for feats and traits, nothing else makes sense.


For what it's worth, I feel like the line of default versions for spells should be updated - we have psychic spells now, after all.


James Risner wrote:

It gives a general rule:

Quote:
the creature's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order.
The only time it deviates from this is for SLA from a class. So use this for feats and traits, nothing else makes sense.

That is a strange assumption to draw from a sample size of 2. One could say the only time it deviates from the fluff of the source is when it is a racial ability.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

Well, that’s also the general method spells are sourced for pricing reasons in magic item creation guidelines.


Which also has no bearing on this.

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d'Eon wrote:
Which also has no bearing on this.

It might seem strange to think of the rules as more of a conversation than a programming language code book. They are written to have a lot of things with "no bearing" to have influence on other parts of the rules.

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