Quote: Pirate Weapons (Ex)
A corsair is well versed in the types of weapons favored by pirates. When selecting a group of weapons for his Weapon Training ability, he can select Pirate Weapons as a group.
The Pirate Weapons group consists of the crossbow, cutlass, dagger, hook hand, rapier, and short sword.
The weapon group mentions crossbow, but does that refer to any specific crossbow or the entire weapon group of crossbows? Also a Cutlus appears to be statistically identical to a scimitar in nearly all ways aside from flavor and name, so do they count as different weapons or the same as far as feats go?
1) Would appear the be just "The Crossbow".
2) Different. No idea why, but different.
Generally, the crossbow just refers to either a light or heavy crossbow and not to all crossbows. So no repeating, slaver's, or double crossbows.
Cutlass is similar, but it is its own weapon. A Sarenite using a cutlass is not the same as a Sarenite using a scimitar. Mechanically similar weapons don't count as the same weapon. There are a decent number of weapons that are similar, but are different weapons still.
toastedamphibian wrote: 1) Would appear the be just "The Crossbow".
Do you know what the stats for "The Crossbow" is exactly?
Valamuur wrote: Generally, the crossbow just refers to either a light or heavy crossbow and not to all crossbows. So no repeating, slaver's, or double crossbows.
Is this one of those RAI over RAW sort of things now? My GM says the same thing as you, but I also have some hardass GM's who, like Toast, says it's only for "The Crossbow" which statically doesn't exist as a weapon. Some clarification would be nice.
Fist2Jaw wrote: toastedamphibian wrote: 1) Would appear the be just "The Crossbow".
Do you know what the stats for "The Crossbow" is exactly? Nope!
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Is this one of those RAI over RAW sort of things now? My GM says the same thing as you, but I also have some hardass GM's who, like Toast, says it's only for "The Crossbow" which statically doesn't exist as a weapon. Some clarification would be nice.
Hey.... I didn't make the archetype. Not my fault that author forgot the game rules.
Found a Pirate/Buccaneer using a "Cutlass (Treat as scimitar)" and a heavy crossbow
a Pirate Captain using a rapier and a light crossbow
a Storm Pirate using a hand crossbow and rapier
and a bunch of guys using bows and scimitars.
None of the other "Pirate" classes seem to make any mention of crossbows.
So... take it up with your DM, not noticing any particular tendency towards one type of crossbow over another.
Fist2Jaw wrote: toastedamphibian wrote: 1) Would appear the be just "The Crossbow".
Do you know what the stats for "The Crossbow" is exactly?
Valamuur wrote: Generally, the crossbow just refers to either a light or heavy crossbow and not to all crossbows. So no repeating, slaver's, or double crossbows.
Is this one of those RAI over RAW sort of things now? My GM says the same thing as you, but I also have some hardass GM's who, like Toast, says it's only for "The Crossbow" which statically doesn't exist as a weapon. Some clarification would be nice.
First printing of the CRB has Abadar's Favored weapon as "Crossbow" which has now been fixed in later printings as "Light Crossbow." Seems like that would be the closest to a RAW answer to your question.
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Hey, great news if you're still checking this thread!
Cutlass got reprinted in adventurer's armory 2, with text indicating "It is treated as a scimitar for any effects that apply to a scimitar."
Oh for real? That would be awesome then. I was hoping to make my Corsair more dex based to better use Scimitars and Crossbows but Scimitars =/= Cutlasses.
Jury's still out on that crossbow mess. I've settled for just using a Light Crossbow, not that I use crossbows a lot anyways. I was a bit more interested in it because I wanted access to repeater crossbows, but it doesn't really matter anymore. Thanks for your help everyone.
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