Just a thought. Maybe Paizo should include intermediate (inter) saves to help power down/up the classes. This would be a poor save, but an additional increase of +1 at level 1, 10, and 19; bringing it to 9 max at level 20. There has been attempts to do the similar with some classes like the scout and swashbuckler, so this is not unheard of.
My suggestions to applications.
Mainly give these to cleric/druid
Good Will
Inter Fort
I would also suggest Inter Reflex for fighters.
These are minor, but can do a bit to help balance things out.
Does anyone else think this might be a good idea?
Absolutely.
I think the swashbuckler is a great example. Instead of making it a class ability, just make it a different save progression. It is a chance to give some classes a little bump without giving them another 'good save'.
And toning down some of the classes that seem too good.
I would give the Paladin and the Monk 3 Intermediates f.e.
I would give the Paladin and the Monk 3 Intermediates f.e.
.... Oh those poor Paladins and Monks! Why would you do that.
I could maybe see giving the Paladin Good fort and inter. will. But the monk has enough problems as it is.
Just a thought. Maybe Paizo should include intermediate (inter) saves to help power down/up the classes. This would be a poor save, but an additional increase of +1 at level 1, 10, and 19; bringing it to 9 max at level 20. There has been attempts to do the similar with some classes like the scout and swashbuckler, so this is not unheard of.
My suggestions to applications.
Mainly give these to cleric/druid
Good Will
Inter FortI would also suggest Inter Reflex for fighters.
These are minor, but can do a bit to help balance things out.
Does anyone else think this might be a good idea?
Yes, but ...
I'd use the following:
Good = 2 + floor(0.5*level)
Medium = 1 + floor(0.4*level)
Poor = 0 + floor(0.3*level)Another option just occured to me:
Change the classes to give medium and poor saves
and improve them depending on race!Example: Dwarf gets improved Fort,
Ftr gets Fort and Ref medium, Will poor
so the dwarven Ftr ends up with Fort good, Ref medium
and Will poor.
An elf Ftr (with improved Ref) gets Fort medium,
Ref good and Will poor.Naturally humans may choose which save gets improved...
Whaddya think?
LL
PS: I'd like a change of PrC entry req. to min. saves instead
of BAB...
That sounds really extreme with the race determination, but I don't know if that might work or not. It does sound interesting.
That sounds really extreme with the race determination, but I don't know if that might work or not. It does sound interesting.Just a thought. Maybe Paizo should include intermediate (inter) saves to help power down/up the classes. This would be a poor save, but an additional increase of +1 at level 1, 10, and 19; bringing it to 9 max at level 20. There has been attempts to do the similar with some classes like the scout and swashbuckler, so this is not unheard of.
My suggestions to applications.
Mainly give these to cleric/druid
Good Will
Inter FortI would also suggest Inter Reflex for fighters.
These are minor, but can do a bit to help balance things out.
Does anyone else think this might be a good idea?
Yes, but ...
I'd use the following:
Good = 2 + floor(0.5*level)
Medium = 1 + floor(0.4*level)
Poor = 0 + floor(0.3*level)Another option just occured to me:
Change the classes to give medium and poor saves
and improve them depending on race!Example: Dwarf gets improved Fort,
Ftr gets Fort and Ref medium, Will poor
so the dwarven Ftr ends up with Fort good, Ref medium
and Will poor.
An elf Ftr (with improved Ref) gets Fort medium,
Ref good and Will poor.Naturally humans may choose which save gets improved...
Whaddya think?
LL
PS: I'd like a change of PrC entry req. to min. saves instead
of BAB...I'm a big fan of making race more important. :)
LL
Wow ok.