Do you know Nomic? It's a game where players can vote to change the rules of the game, slowly turning the game into another.
I've had this weird idea of mixing Nomic with an RPG. There would be two initial sets of rules, a set of game rules and a set of "meta" rules, and we'd run parallel games on the Gameplay and Discussion threads:
- In the Gameplay thread, characters would act according to the game rules.
- In the Discussion thread, player would discuss changes to the rules, and vote weekly.
Of course, this would be the initial situation, then everything would likely change quickly.
"Wait, I didn't understand. How would these rule work?"
Let's make a simple example:
#1) Characters can be Humans, Elves or Dwarves.
#2) Characters can be Fighters, Mages or Rogues.
#3) The World is made of:
#3a) - the Quiet Village Inn.
#3b) - the Quiet Village Shop.
#3c) - the Dark Mysterious Forest.
#1) Characters post in the Gameplay Thread.
#2) Players post in the Discussion Thread.
#3) Every Player has one and only one Character.
#4) From Monday to Sunday, each Player can make a Proposal, and no more than one.
#5) A Proposal can be one of the following:
#5a) - Enacting, amending or repealing a Game Rule.
#5b) - Enacting, amending or repealing a Meta Rule.
#6) From Monday to Sunday, players can vote on Proposals. Each player may vote Yea or Nay to each submitted Proposal.
#7) Votes can't be changed.
#8) On Monday, Proposals which have more Yea than Nay are enacted and immediately effective.
#9) Proposals with the same number of Yea and Nay are repealed.
"So, how would the game work? I'm lost with these rules."
Andrew and Alice are Players whose Characters are Muruk Burnblade, a Dwarf Fighter, and Ellie Greenwood, an Elf Mage. The Gameplay Thread may look like:
Muruk Burnblade - Muruk takes his axe and heads towards the Dark Mysterious Forest, looking for foes to test his mettle.
Ellie Greenwood - Ellie enters the Shop. "Hello, Shopkeeper, I'd like to buy a sword."
But the Discussion Thread would be like:
Andrew - We'll need a combat system for this game! Let's make it a bit like Pathfinder. My Proposal for the week is to add the following Game Rule: "4) Characters have six abilities: Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, Charisma."
Alice - I'd like to go for something like the Cypher System, so I'll vote Nay to Andrew's Proposal. But I think we'll need to change rules at a faster place, so my Proposal is to amend Meta Rule #4 to: "From Monday to Sunday, each Player can make up to three Proposals."
Andrew - Sounds alright. I vote Yea to Alice's Proposal.
And of course, everything might change while we play the game. Will it become fantasy? Hard sci-fi? Will it fuse with Chess? Add special charges? Anything can happen in Nomic.
"Why go to all these length? Why not just set up another Rise of the Runelords game?"
Oh, come on!
So, are you up for the most changing, unusual game ever invented? Take Rule Lawyering to the next step, and become Rule Lawmakers?
Sadly, I'm afraid we were alone in this XD
This sounds really cool, im definitly interested.
Well, this puts me in a bit of a pinch, since I've started another interest check, believing that this one had tanked...
And I haven't thought about the initial rulings in detail.
Ill join.
May ain't that old. This sounds promising.
This would be cool
So, I'm glad that this game raised interest, sadly I'm tasked to capacity right now. The good thing is, this sort of game doesn't need a GM! So, if you are interested, just get together, draft a starting ruleset and go!
Good luck, and have fun!
So we'll start a draft.
Who wants to be the Gm for the purpose of creating a gameplay thread?
Bumping
I probably shouldn't do it. I've never participated in a PbP before, although I'm trying to start now.
I probably shouldn't do it. I've never participated in a PbP before, although I'm trying to start now.
C'mon it will be fun. we have invisible online net cookies!
What better way to start then in a game world where you make the rules?As a side note have you read the 3 guides to PBP?
Since when do we have cookies?
Welcome back. Since 1 hour ago
Well we have 3 people
EDIT: Created the discussion thread Here will add game play after the base rules are established
I meant I shouldn't GM. I'd love to play.
I meant I shouldn't GM. I'd love to play.
Realised that 1 minute too late to edit my post XD
May I join this glorious endeavour? It looks like an idea with the potential for brilliance (and also the potential for utter disaster, but let's not dwell on that).
@The Sesquipedalian Thaumaturge: I'll just check with the others while i am the 'GM', and i am personally ok with letting you in, if 2 players vote no for letting you in, they can overrule the GM.
@The Sesquipedalian Thaumaturge:
Soo... I think we just removed the GM role... for now at least. So with no further need to bow down to the whims of a powerhungry madman, I'm free to invite you to join us over at this thread
I actually just posted to that very thread right before seeing this, having read about your courageous revolution against tyranny, but thanks. :)
Bump!!!!