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Happened in a gaming session: a Pit Fiend has a tail attack with Grab. That means he can start a grapple manouver after a successful tail attack.
Now: what I can't find anywhere is IF the pit fiend can still perform a full attack action while grapped. The rules say that grappling itself is a standard action, and that mantaining the grapple can also inflict damage with a natural attack -so I'd say no.
But, at the same time, I've read in an errata that "a monk may flurry while grappling", and also the Pathfinder SRD says "A grappled creature can still make a full attack". Does that refer to the defender (grappled) instead of the attacker (grapling), and the flurry thing is a special monk bonus?
Long story short: can a Pit Fiend attack with its tail, grapple successfully and, on following rounds (or even the same), unleash a full attack on its grappled foe while at the same time rolling to mantain the grapple?
Long story short: can a Pit Fiend attack with its tail, grapple successfully and, on following rounds (or even the same), unleash a full attack on its grappled foe while at the same time rolling to maintain the grapple?
He can definitely finish his full attack for that round, as "Grab" does not take an action, and grappling doesn't prevent attacks. But essentially, no, a creature that is maintaining a grapple cannot get a full attack.
A monk can flurry while *being* grappled, but not while maintaining.
Yep. It's often best for the pit fiend to full attack, grab (to deal burn aura damage), and then release just before another full attack on his next turn. Rinse and repeat.
...that, or use any one of his annihilation spells. :P
Thank you very much. A great part of my confusion was cause by the grappling rules making a difference between the grappler-attacker and the grappler-defender, despite the rules using the same term "grappled" for both, and having a whole paragraph named "if you are grappled".
So: the attacker can let the defender go at any time, gets a +5 bonus on the CMB roll and can only perform one attack, while the defender can perform a full attack action? Is this right?
Grab is a special case. I think the Pit Fiend can elect to maintain the grapple at -20, and then get a full attack as normal. If it wants to have a regular grapple, it loses its full attack.