
CraziFuzzy |
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When does the eldritch scion gain the bloodline bonus spells?
The wording in the archetype is obviously incorrect. Mark Seifter has stated in another thread (here) that he remembers discussing this for the first ACG errata, and the fix got lost somewhere. I am creating this thread to petition a FAQ entry to get this fixed in the short term until the next errata eventually comes out.
Looking at the bloodrager, it appears that the bonus spells come online on the level the bloodrager gains the next spell (so the bonus 1st level spell comes on at level 7, which is when the bloodrager gains 2nd level spells; the bonus 2nd level comes on when the bloorager gains his first 3rd level spell; and so on). Bringing this over to the Eldritch Scion, it should gain the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th level bonus spells at 4th, 7th, 10th, and 13th levels. I would love to also get a 5th and 6th level spell assigned to each bloodline that the eldritch scion could gain at 16th and 19th level, but I feel that is probably asking too much.

Klorox |

I don't get it, the book is very clear on the bonus spell feature, and the SRD does not introduce any variance on that level, so what's your beef with it?
EDIT DUH, I checked the link and the Bloodrager, yeah, of course the bonus spell gained at lvl 7 is that gained at lvl 7 by the bloodrager... thanks for me realize that.

vhok |
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He does not gain any bonus feats, and he gains bonus spells from his bloodline at different levels (see the bonus spell class feature below).
Bonus Spells
At 7th level, an eldritch scion gains the bonus spell from his bloodrager bloodline that is normally gained at 10th level. He gains the next three bonus spells from his bloodline at 9th, 11th, and 13th levels, respectively.
This ability replaces knowledge pool.
seems extremely clear and could not be more spelled out to me.

Klorox |

Actually there's an obvious mistake, that you understand by comparing the Bloodrager text with the one in Eldritch Scion... the initially gained bonus spell should be the lvl 1 spell, gained at lvl *7* by the Bloodrager, not le lvl 2 spell gained at lvl 10... if you follow the ES text literally it doesn't make sense.

CraziFuzzy |

And really, even the the seemingly intended 7/9/11/13 progression is.. weird.. when compared to the magus' spell chart. A bonus 1st level spell at 7th level for the magus is... quite pointless. If you read the comment Mark Seifter made in the linked thread, he remembers planning on it coming in earlier, and every 3 levels, which would line up the magus spell progression. Still lacks bonus spells for 5th and 6th, but that's just an oh-well issue, and the unfortunate result of pulling a 4 level caster ability onto a 6 level caster.