What is Your Age Group, and Do You Hate Age Groups?


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Sundakan wrote:
Quark Blast wrote:


Items 1 and 2 don't really resonate with me (yet?) but as for 3, we are hopelessly addicted to our phones. I asked one of my professors just this week (who, I'm guessing has been teaching for 20+ years) what it was like in the classroom before the onset of smart phones. The short answer was, "Better. Teaching is what I do and the iPhone lead a trend that makes it now much harder to teach effectively."

Which sounds like a load of horse s*$# to me. The people who didn't want to learn would always find ways not to learn in class. He just didn't notice as much because they'd be doodling on their "notes" or something instead of looking at a phone.

So true. I was sitting in first period English class tripping on acid in my senior year and I kept hearing this noise next to me like someone had the sniffles. I finally look over and two of my friends are snorting coke on tin foil and passing it back and forth. I mean you couldn't not see it unless you didn't want to!


MMCJawa wrote:
BigDTBone wrote:


PhD in any field qualifies him for many jobs in academia. Tell him to look into being an instructional designer. Entry level starts around $50k in major university systems. Advancement opportunities go all the way up into the top levels of administration. Also puts him in a preferred position to adjunct.

Unfortunately academic jobs are on the decline...its not uncommon for for any open position to receive 200 applications. Currently, in the sciences the general phenomena is that for every 4 applications you put in for a job, you will get one interview, and for every 4 interviews, you might get a single job offer. This is for the sciences too...I would imagine the humanities have it worse.

A lot of PhD level jobs just are not coming online fast enough for my quasi-millenial generation. Departments are either relying increasingly on graduate students to cover courses, or adjuncts, who are very underpaid, barely making above minimum wage and with no job security or benefits. NSF/NIH budget cuts (which are not likely to increase in the next administration) further worsen things by tightening budgets and reducing postdoc and research science positions.

This trend has been ongoing for at least a decade. It's the number one reason why I continued to practice law and did not attempt to enter academia.


...When your system is set up so that your prices go up massively in a fairly short period of time, but the people who do the actual work get paid basically nothing... o wo;

Oh, that reminds me. Today, I was reading in the newspaper that Millennials are making about 20% less than Boomers at the same stage of life - and that's with major increases in costs (especially the cost of living) at the same time.

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Removed a handful of politically charged commentary. Folks, we still have sorting out the fate of political threads on our plate—consider them still on pause until we indicate otherwise. Thanks!


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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Removed a handful of politically charged commentary. Folks, we still have sorting out the fate of political threads on our plate—consider them still on pause until we indicate otherwise. Thanks!

Spoiler:

Is this a thing that you guys would OK discussing in principle on the website feedback forum? I know I would really appreciate the ability to voice an opinion on the fate of political threads *particularly* if they are going away. But I don't want to start that thread if you would rather not have it.

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BigDTBone wrote:
Chris Lambertz wrote:
Removed a handful of politically charged commentary. Folks, we still have sorting out the fate of political threads on our plate—consider them still on pause until we indicate otherwise. Thanks!
** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Go for it! We'd be happy to hear input on this front :)

Chris Lambertz wrote:
Removed a handful of politically charged commentary. Folks, we still have sorting out the fate of political threads on our plate—consider them still on pause until we indicate otherwise. Thanks!

Chris:
Sorry 'bout that! Did not think those were Political per se but I guess controversial is close enough. I'll refrain form those types of links till there is a final determination on the political threads debate.

KC, Here's the Answer to Your Question

Ninja'd by over five and a half years! :p

That guy is truly prescient.


God, the comments to that video are just insufferable.


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“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

― Socrates


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
God, the comments to that video are just insufferable.

Ah yes, the Internet without Mods. Nothing like getting a peak under the hood at the human condition. :D


I really enjoyed Griffin's rant about millennial bashing in Cars 3. But of course I would. It starts at the 43 minute mark.


CrystalSeas wrote:

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

― Socrates

The old dude was right.

Now the Internet allows all this without any direct social repercussion to the perps. If they're even people and not bottwits or some such.


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Remember when Gen X were "slackers"?


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Mm-hm. The whole point of Socrates's quote being referenced is that literally every generation has had those same accusations leveled at then, especially when new technology has been involved. The brainiacs back then hated books, you know. They thought they promoted mindlessness.


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Quark Blast wrote:
CrystalSeas wrote:

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

― Socrates

The old dude was right.

Now the Internet allows all this without any direct social repercussion to the perps. If they're even people and not bottwits or some such.

The old dude was right. The old dude's always been right. Every generation.

Kids disrespect elders and elders get grumpy about it. Then the kids grow up and their kids disrespect them and they get grumpy about it because they never behaved like that.


God, just imagine how millennials are gonna handle it when we're the grumpy ones. We're gonna just, like, produce hundreds of thousands of Minions and A Bee Movie memes about the damn whippersnappers.


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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Mm-hm. The whole point of Socrates's quote being referenced is that literally every generation has had those same accusations leveled at then, especially when new technology has been involved. The brainiacs back then hated books, you know. They thought they promoted mindlessness.

They do. With all this writing and looking stuff up, kids these days can hardly memorize a mere thousand line epic.


thejeff wrote:

Remember when Gen X were "slackers"?

Remember when the baby boomers were dirty long haired hippies?


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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
God, just imagine how millennials are gonna handle it when we're the grumpy ones. We're gonna just, like, produce hundreds of thousands of Minions and A Bee Movie memes about the damn whippersnappers.

BRB making "Bee Movie Except Every Time They say The Word 'Bee' It's Replaced By 'Damn Kids' And Also It Plays 10% Faster"


BigNorseWolf wrote:
thejeff wrote:

Remember when Gen X were "slackers"?

Remember when the baby boomers were dirty long haired hippies?

"Drug-crazed youth discovered vagrancy as a way of life" -- Zappa


Sundakan wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
God, just imagine how millennials are gonna handle it when we're the grumpy ones. We're gonna just, like, produce hundreds of thousands of Minions and A Bee Movie memes about the damn whippersnappers.
BRB making "Bee Movie Except Every Time They say The Word 'Bee' It's Replaced By 'Damn Kids' And Also It Plays 10% Faster"

Also I was just watching some Youtube videoes and apparently the f*!!ing PBS Idea Channel posted an eleven hour long Bee Movie parody.

What is this world?

Sovereign Court

So whats the name for Gen Z?


I only found out a few months ago that I am a millenial, just squeecking in during '84. I vaguely remember a cutscene from The Simpsons involving one of the many secondary characters making a one-liner comment about Gen-X, and wondering what the heck 'Gen-X' was.

I don't exactly object to gen labels, but I still can't keep them straight in my head, still don't know who the heck comes up with them, and still don't much care because I'm highly skeptical that any useful trends can be drawn between gen labels and attitude.

I do have attitudes that might align me with this or that generation, so my skepticism could just be me not being exposed to the big picture though. I was alive and aware long before 9/11, but the knowledge that nobody is 100% safe from random death and that my nation's own soil is vulnerable to attack doesn't bother me either. It's just the way things are.

I'm 100% disinterested in social media -- unless you count interweb message boards -- and have only become a Twit just this month so that I can use Twitter as a political tool. Which sets me apart from the archetypal millenial.

My parents did 99% right by me, particularly my mother, but her advice to major in whatever I liked turned out to be a mistake. (English lit, wooo!) As a result, I'm not a believer in "You have to be passionate about what you do," but can attest that getting some satisfaction out of your job makes life much much better -- I also don't believe in settling for a hateful career.

I'm a believer in 'Power corrupts...' and in 'Believe in the ideal, not the idol,' and I'm becoming more and more cynical about human nature, but is this because I'm a millenial or is it because I'm a proud liberal in my early 30s?

I'm about to get married this weekend for the very first time -- it's not that I'm reluctant to make a commitment, it's that both of my parents were married twice, and I don't want to make a commitment to the wrong person. Maybe that's what all commitment-averse people say though. ;)

Kobold Cleaver wrote:


In case it's not clear, I find this stuff really interesting. :P

I agree, it is kinda fun. :)

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Also getting married soon here as a gen Xer for the first time and a bit older than Tequila Sunrise. I think Gen X started to buck the trend of getting hitched right out of HS/college and starting a family the way the boomers did. Probably all the baggage left over from the 50's and counter culture 60's left us cynical of the whole process. I mean watching our parents get married and divorced and married isn't a real endorsement of the institution.


Pan wrote:
Also getting married soon here as a gen Xer for the first time and a bit older than Tequila Sunrise. I think Gen X started to buck the trend of getting hitched right out of HS/college and starting a family the way the boomers did. Probably all the baggage left over from the 50's and counter culture 60's left us cynical of the whole process. I mean watching our parents get married and divorced and married isn't a real endorsement of the institution.

Also, just a long term trend from the sexual revolution.

Sex and living together without marriage are both more and more acceptable. Women not defining themselves in terms of their husband also more and more acceptable and practical.

Boomers kind of started the trends that led to it and Gen X was far enough along to actually reap the benefits.

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thejeff wrote:


Boomers kind of started the trends that led to it and Gen X was far enough along to actually reap the benefits.

Well there is grinder now so maybe its millenials reaping the benefits :)


What do you old foggies think about Gen Z?


F%*@ing whippersnappers don't respect their elders.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
F~~%ing whippersnappers don't respect their elders.

I will not rise to your bait, Kobold Cleaver. Instead, I will just wait patiently until you, and the rest of the ancients, go to the grave.

Then my generation will RAISE!


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You mean get a raise?


Well, if you're gonna be like that, we're gonna crash the economy even more! See if you can get a raise then!


Orville Redenbacher wrote:
You mean get a raise?

Blame it on the American highschool education system.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Well, if you're gonna be like that, we're gonna crash the economy even more! See if you can get a raise then!

I knew it! You old bastards are gonna blew all up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!


Delightful wrote:
What do you old foggies think about Gen Z?

Not much yet, but that isn't their fault. The oldest are still just Juniors in high school. (Barring genius/savant outliers, which by definition shouldn't be considered when talking about abstractions like "generations.")


Well, if you think Millennials are addicted to technology...

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