Hello fellow gamers! ^^
Maybe it's because it's late or because I've not had time to play on a few months and I got disconnected but, reading the Sleight of Hand skill I see anyone can draw a hidden weapon as a standard action. DC 20 to draw it unnoticed.
Then, reading the skill unlocks of this skill some questions have come to me, all of them uninvited.
10 Ranks: The penalty for attempting a Sleight of Hand check (including drawing a hidden weapon) as a move action is reduced to –10.
15 Ranks: You can attempt a Sleight of Hand check (including drawing a hidden weapon) as a swift action at a –20 penalty.
20 Ranks: You take no penalty for using Sleight of Hand as a move action, and take only a –10 penalty when using it as a swift action.
1.0- Has the PC be successful on some kind of check to draw a concealed weapon even if he is not trying to draw it unnoticed?
1.1- If he has to, at the same C than trying to make it unnoticed or lower?
1.2- If lower, what DC it has?
If this check is only meant to draw the weapon unnoticed:
2.0- Can the PC draw his hidden weapon as a swift action without any kind of check if he don't mind to be seen doing it? (Guessing he have enough ranks on the skill)
I don't know what I'm missing so, if someone is seeing it please feel free to point it to me in addition to the answers.
Thank you for your time and sorry for my typos and misspellings.
1. No. The weapon is simply no longer concealed. (See my pistol.)
2. If the PC can normally draw a weapon as a swift action, then yes, unless the GM rules that the weapon is hidden away in a bag or some sort.
2. If the PC can normally draw a weapon as a swift action, then yes, unless the GM rules that the weapon is hidden away in a bag or some sort.
I don't know if the skill unlock from rogue's edge would be considered as giving the PC de ability to draw hidden weapons as a swift action or only gives the possibility to make the actions that need a some kind of check as a swift action at -20 (-10 at 20 ranks). Maybe I’ve not asked properly but that is what i was trying to ask with the last question.
Let's say that the PC it's an unchained rogue with 15 ranks on sleight of hand and he have chosen it for his rogue's edge; no feats, spells, items or whatever. Only de the skill, de unlock and enough ranks. This PC wants to draw a hidden weapon he has as fast as possible; he doesn’t care about if the rest of the world notice he is drawing a weapon or not.
- Would the PC of this example be able to draw a hidden weapon as a swift action, with no check?
In the other hand, if he try to draw it unnoticed but fails:
- Would he end up with the weapon in hand but everyone have seen him taking it or he would not be able to draw the weapon at all?
Thank you for your time and sorry for my typos and misspellings.
10 Ranks: The penalty for attempting a Sleight of Hand check (including drawing a hidden weapon) as a move action is reduced to –10.
15 Ranks: You can attempt a Sleight of Hand check (including drawing a hidden weapon) as a swift action at a –20 penalty.
If the PC tries to draw a weapon, they can attempt a Sleight of Hand to draw it unnoticed.
I would rule that he could in fact, draw the weapon as a swift action, as long as he passes a DC1 check. You are taking a -20 to the check, and if you don't care if you succeed or not in drawing it unnoticed, then the PC simply must have a positive result.
So, has to make a DC1 check to draw it at all as a swift action, since without the skill, he couldn't draw the weapon as a swift action. If the PC wants to draw it unnoticed, then the DC is the opponent's Perception.