How Absalom Station came to be: Wild Ideas Folks!


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David knott 242 wrote:
Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
I asked Wes during his AMA last night if Absalom Station was created before, during, or after the Gap. ** spoiler omitted **

That is an interesting response, as I can see some obvious problems with Absalom Station being created before or after the Gap.

Before: That would imply that somebody is capable of creating Absalom Station in the "now" of the Pathfinder universe.

After: That would imply that it was built by one of the more sophisticated cultures that survived the removal of Golarion (perhaps the Vercites?). If, for example, the Vercites built it, then why is it located in Golarion's former orbit around the sun rather than a more obvious location such as in orbit around Verces? And why are most of its inhabitants from Golarion rather than Verces?

Either way, there would be a strong implication that Absalom Station was created somewhere else and then later moved to its current location.

How was it moved?


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Absalom station was actually the destination of ship that crashed into Numeria (it was on auto pilot, thought it was on docking course and was not expecting the station to be wrapped in Golarion the plant).

The station had experienced some long forgotten disaster resulting in it falling silent for eones, it's body mass and gravity well attracting space matter around itself, eventually forming the planet Golarion with the station becoming the core of the world.

When the gods spirited Golarion away, the space station got left behind and the rays of the systems star started to power the station again as it returned to life...


David knott 242 wrote:
Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
I asked Wes during his AMA last night if Absalom Station was created before, during, or after the Gap. ** spoiler omitted **

That is an interesting response, as I can see some obvious problems with Absalom Station being created before or after the Gap.

Before: That would imply that somebody is capable of creating Absalom Station in the "now" of the Pathfinder universe.

After: That would imply that it was built by one of the more sophisticated cultures that survived the removal of Golarion (perhaps the Vercites?). If, for example, the Vercites built it, then why is it located in Golarion's former orbit around the sun rather than a more obvious location such as in orbit around Verces? And why are most of its inhabitants from Golarion rather than Verces?

Either way, there would be a strong implication that Absalom Station was created somewhere else and then later moved to its current location.

Both of those scenarios seem to imply it was built by mortal hands. I would think it more likely to be sent by the gods and thus no other construction of that scale is possible by mortal means. That ensures it is a unique structure and maintains being the core of the setting. Otherwise, if we built one, why not build another? The Diaspora would probably have enough material to build out a few of the things.

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Torbyne wrote:
robertness wrote:

Where did Absalom Station come from? Well, since you're old enough to ask I should give you an honest answer. How should I put this?

*ahem* When a daddy space station and a mommy space station love each other very much...

Wha?! LIES! What about the galactic stork?!

That's not what I thought the Great Bird of the Galaxy was.


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Torbyne wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
I asked Wes during his AMA last night if Absalom Station was created before, during, or after the Gap. ** spoiler omitted **

That is an interesting response, as I can see some obvious problems with Absalom Station being created before or after the Gap.

Before: That would imply that somebody is capable of creating Absalom Station in the "now" of the Pathfinder universe.

After: That would imply that it was built by one of the more sophisticated cultures that survived the removal of Golarion (perhaps the Vercites?). If, for example, the Vercites built it, then why is it located in Golarion's former orbit around the sun rather than a more obvious location such as in orbit around Verces? And why are most of its inhabitants from Golarion rather than Verces?

Either way, there would be a strong implication that Absalom Station was created somewhere else and then later moved to its current location.

Both of those scenarios seem to imply it was built by mortal hands. I would think it more likely to be sent by the gods and thus no other construction of that scale is possible by mortal means. That ensures it is a unique structure and maintains being the core of the setting. Otherwise, if we built one, why not build another? The Diaspora would probably have enough material to build out a few of the things.

If Absalom Station was created by deities before or after the Gap, there would be many mortal witnesses to its creation. Creating the station after the Gap has the further problem of moving inhabitants of Golarion from wherever Golarion was sent to Absalom Station after the Gap. Creation by deities definitely works best if done during the Gap, so that the memories of any mortal witnesses are already wiped automatically.


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Misroi wrote:
Torbyne wrote:
robertness wrote:

Where did Absalom Station come from? Well, since you're old enough to ask I should give you an honest answer. How should I put this?

*ahem* When a daddy space station and a mommy space station love each other very much...

Wha?! LIES! What about the galactic stork?!
That's not what I thought the Great Bird of the Galaxy was.

Great Bird of the Galaxy? I thought the galaxy had a Great Pumpkin . . . .


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David knott 242 wrote:
Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
I asked Wes during his AMA last night if Absalom Station was created before, during, or after the Gap. ** spoiler omitted **

That is an interesting response, as I can see some obvious problems with Absalom Station being created before or after the Gap.

Before: That would imply that somebody is capable of creating Absalom Station in the "now" of the Pathfinder universe.

It's thousands of years in the future. The only thing the AI god is known to have given mortals as a gift is hyperspace travel. Everything else (space ships, space stations, high tech weapons, etc.) has to be presumed to be native tech developed naturally. I have no problem seeing Absalom Station as a huge mortal built project that happened to sit directly above the original Absalom, connected by a space elevator. After Golarion disappeared the gods cut the tether and let it float loose, maybe with a few former Golarion inhabitants teleported aboard.

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