Raigeki |
So I was recently playing a psychic and I fought a ghost. I had the will of the dead feature which allows mind affecting affects able to affect undead. But once that happens what kind of damage does mind thrust do? Is it force damage so it doesn't get halted or does it get halved? This question of for any incorporeal creature how much and what kind of damage would it do?
Grumpus RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 |
Franz Lunzer |
*Thread necromancy has been cast*
The moment you gain higher level spell slots, you automatically have the higher level version as known (and count as spell known), but at the same time 'forget' the lower level version (and also don't count it anymore as spell known).
In addition you can cast the lower level version using the appropriate spell slot, if you know any higher level version.
Grumpus RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 |
*Thread necromancy has been cast*
The moment you gain higher level spell slots, you automatically have the higher level version as known (and count as spell known), but at the same time 'forget' the lower level version (and also don't count it anymore as spell known).
In addition you can cast the lower level version using the appropriate spell slot, if you know any higher level version.
I don't think that is quite right. The way I understand it, you have to select Mind Thrust II as a 2nd level spell known, but this will immediately 'free-up' a 1st level spell known in place of Mind Thrust I.
The rules on undercasting on the PRD states: Whenever a spontaneous spellcaster adds a spell to his list of spells known that can be undercast, he can immediately learn a spell in place of each lower-level version of that spell he knows. In essence, he loses each earlier version and can replace it with another spell of the same level that is on his spell list.
Gisher |
Franz Lunzer wrote:*Thread necromancy has been cast*
The moment you gain higher level spell slots, you automatically have the higher level version as known (and count as spell known), but at the same time 'forget' the lower level version (and also don't count it anymore as spell known).
In addition you can cast the lower level version using the appropriate spell slot, if you know any higher level version.
I don't think that is quite right. The way I understand it, you have to select Mind Thrust II as a 2nd level spell known, but this will immediately 'free-up' a 1st level spell known in place of Mind Thrust I.
The rules on undercasting on the PRD states: Whenever a spontaneous spellcaster adds a spell to his list of spells known that can be undercast, he can immediately learn a spell in place of each lower-level version of that spell he knows. In essence, he loses each earlier version and can replace it with another spell of the same level that is on his spell list.
You are correct. Under Frank Lunzer's description you would be forced to take the higher level version, but that isn't correct.
Franz Lunzer |
Grumpus wrote:You are correct. Under Frank Lunzer's description you would be forced to take the higher level version, but that isn't correct.Franz Lunzer wrote:*Thread necromancy has been cast*
The moment you gain higher level spell slots, you automatically have the higher level version as known (and count as spell known), but at the same time 'forget' the lower level version (and also don't count it anymore as spell known).
In addition you can cast the lower level version using the appropriate spell slot, if you know any higher level version.
I don't think that is quite right. The way I understand it, you have to select Mind Thrust II as a 2nd level spell known, but this will immediately 'free-up' a 1st level spell known in place of Mind Thrust I.
The rules on undercasting on the PRD states: Whenever a spontaneous spellcaster adds a spell to his list of spells known that can be undercast, he can immediately learn a spell in place of each lower-level version of that spell he knows. In essence, he loses each earlier version and can replace it with another spell of the same level that is on his spell list.
Huh... right. Hmm... I do remember reading that paragraph, but in a slightly different form.