Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria
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From Blood of the Moon (not entirely sure if this section is PFS legal) :
Magic: Spells like remove disease and heal are more definitive and safer ways to break the curse, as long as they are cast by a holy person of sufficient skill (typically a cleric of 12th level or higher). However, the window of time in which such mystical treatments function is short— healers have but 3 days after a victim's exposure to the curse to use their restorative magic before it is no longer sufficient. Since many lycanthropes make their homes far from civilization, those who are infected by such reclusive monsters usually have no hope of reaching such a cure in time. After the 3-day window has passed, a victim's only chance of a cure through magic is a remove curse spell, cast by a cleric of 12th level or higher, during the time of the victim's transformation. To make matters more troublesome, spellcasters of sufficient power are rare in the Inner Sea region, and even if such a prodigious cleric is found, the price of his services can be cripplingly expensive.
EDIT: Can't access the book right now, to check if this text is in the illegal section.
EDIT:2 Just checked, there is a PFS scenario where it is possible to use wolfsbane to cure an afflicted lycanthrope even after the three days have passed.
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In addition it is called Curse of Lycanthropy. As such normal means of removing curses should work regardless of the time taken. Neither Heal nor Remove Disease would normally be able to remove a curse and so I read the section as adding extra options rather than limiting existing means of dealing with a curse.
That might be the case and lycanthropy is classified as a curse.
There are however reasons why this shouldn't work.A cleric has to be 12th level and cast remove disease within three days to cure it. This would be pointless if any 5th level cleric could just throw out a remove curse and be done with it.
The problem is that there is a line from 3.5 missing in Pathfinder:
The only other way to remove the affliction is to cast remove curse or break enchantment on the character during one of the three days of the full moon. After receiving the spell, the character must succeed on a DC 20 Will save to break the curse (the caster knows if the spell works). If the save fails, the process must be repeated.
This is actually adressed in Classic Horrors Revisited. I only have the German version, so I'll try to translate it back into English as back as I can:
Magic effects such as remove curse can be used [to remove the affliction], but are only effective during the full moon when the werewolf is at its strongest.
Seems to me like they only forgot to include that line in the bestiary. The same rule is also stated in Broken Moon.
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The alignment bit is irrelevant, a curse is a condition that must be cleared by the end of the scenario or you are reported dead. Also, this particular werebear is most definitely not good.
This is incorrect. This particular curse would "result in an unplayable character" (at least I think so because werebears are not legal for play), so it has to be cleared. But curses do not have to be cleared at the end of the scenario as a general rule, only noted on the chronicle sheet if they are not broken.
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Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria
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The alignment bit is irrelevant, a curse is a condition that must be cleared by the end of the scenario or you are reported dead. Also, this particular werebear is most definitely not good.This is incorrect. This particular curse would "result in an unplayable character" (at least I think so because werebears are not legal for play), so it has to be cleared. But curses do not have to be cleared at the end of the scenario as a general rule, only noted on the chronicle sheet if they are not broken.
Season 7 Guide, page 23:
All conditions gained during an adventure, except for permanent negative levels, ability drain that does not reduce an ability score to 0, and conditions that provide no mechanical effect, must be resolved before the end of the session; if these are not resolved the character should be reported as ‘dead.’
A recent season 7 scenario actually has a curse that lasts longer than the scenario, but it is on the chronicle sheet. Andreww is correct, curses need to be resolved.
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That contradicts other parts of the Guide then:
Step 8: Have the player note all items purchased or sold, including spellcasting services, in the notes section (V). If the character gained an ongoing condition like a curse or disease during the scenario, the player should note that here as well. See Dealing with Afflictions on page 38 for more information on noting conditions gained and cleared during a scenario or after its conclusion.
At the end of a scenario, a PC may have been afflicted with any number of possible conditions, such as blindness, curses, deafness, diseases, and poison. Verify that the player recorded any conditions in the Items Sold/Conditions Gained box on his Chronicle sheet and initial next to what he wrote (see below). It’s specifically important that conditions be written legibly so the player and subsequent GMs can understand them. If the PC purchased the casting of a spell to clear the condition, you need to make sure the player recorded that information in the Items Bought/ Conditions Cleared box at the bottom of the Chronicle sheet. If another PC cleared the condition by casting a spell, this information should be listed in the Items Bought/ Conditions Cleared box, but with a 0 gp value and the casting character’s full Pathfinder Society Number (XXXXXX) written in next to the spell’s name. If a character resolved a condition gained during a previous scenario during this one, check that the condition is listed as cleared under Items Bought/Conditions Cleared on the Chronicle sheet for this scenario, and verify that the cost for resolving it or the PC who cleared it has been recorded.
Note: Any affliction that would result in an unplayable character must be resolved at the table once the game ends as explained in Chapter 5 of this document.
So while this is applicable here because the affliction would result in an unplayable character this is not the case for all curses, diseases and afflictions.
Nevermind that the Conditions Cleared box was removed a long time ago, of course...I suggest stopping this discussion and to open another thread to not derail this thread further.
"All conditions gained during an adventure, except for
permanent negative levels, ability drain that does not
reduce an ability score to 0, and conditions that provide no
mechanical effect, must be resolved before the end of the
session; if these are not resolved the character should be
reported as ‘dead.’"
If I read this right, the lycanthropy curse (as it was not healed at the end of the scenario) makes my Character unplayable and so 'dead'.
The Character was not able to become aware of the fact he was cursed! The party did manage not to ask the right questions on our knowledge throws, the fact the werebear was able to curse us with every bite was not discoverd. As a result no Cleric was looked out for, no wolfsbane searched, no PP spend by the player.
Well, Good Bye Lorne ...... it was nice knowing you.
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Well, Good Bye Lorne ...... it was nice knowing you.
No. The only reason you didn't clear it is because the DM wouldn't let you clear it. The rule is there to keep you from either showing up as a werebear or burdening your party by adventuring with 12 curses and more diseases than an entire gaming convention: not to make a trip to the sewers more lethal than decapitation.
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Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria
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No. The only reason you didn't clear it is because the DM wouldn't let you clear it. The rule is there to keep you from either showing up as a werebear or burdening your party by adventuring with 12 curses and more diseases than an entire gaming convention: not to make a trip to the sewers more lethal than decapitation.
Well, Good Bye Lorne ...... it was nice knowing you.
As BigNorseWolf said, event of you did not notice during the scenario, the society has experts for this kind of thing. They would at least notice ...
