Celestial servant familiar + polymorph spells


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


So I'm playing a Magus and I have a familiar from the familiar arcana. And it's fairly clear to me what happens if I take the celestial servant feat, my familiar gains a celestial template. Which I'm assuming is always present. So if I polymorph my familiar, using any polymorph spell basically, would he retain the celestial template on top of the new form?
The way polymorph spells sound, I'm under the impression you lose anything based on your normal form and gain the new form. But celestial servant doesn't sound like its specific to the familiar's form. So will it keep the template and it be applied to the new form as well?

As an example:
So if I cast monstrous physique 2 on my familiar and polymorph him into a 4 armed gargoyle, would he then become a celestial 4 armed gargoyle?


While polymorphed, you are still mostly you, with this limitation:

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While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form


Alright. So that sounds like it would keep the celestial template. That makes the feat a lot more attractive then...


You would always keep the template but you may not necessarily be able to access the abilities. The problem is that abilities added from templates aren't explicitly labeled as extraordinary or supernatural, even though some clearly should be. Expect DM variation on what template abilities you will be able to access.

Edit: Note that some abilities such as darkvision or damage reduction are defined as being extraordinary or supernatural in their descriptions in the glossary.


Melkiador wrote:

You would always keep the template but you may not necessarily be able to access the abilities. The problem is that abilities added from templates aren't explicitly labeled as extraordinary or supernatural, even though some clearly should be. Expect DM variation on what template abilities you will be able to access.

Edit: Note that some abilities such as darkvision or damage reduction are defined as being extraordinary or supernatural in their descriptions in the glossary.

That makes sense yeah. I'm not too worried about the darkvision. The thing I'd prefer to keep would be the DR and the resistances.

Thanks for the help though!

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