Into the Badlands


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WTF genre is this??? Feudal dieselpunk post-apocalyptic wushu?


Kung fu dark tower.

Scarab Sages

I watched it, if only because it came on right after Walking Dead and I figured what the hell.

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I did kind of like they way they didn't waste time delving right into the history of the setting, hopefully leaving it to unfold as time goes on. What I wasn't too keen on was the rather quick explanation of why no guns. What? The Barons just decided no? That doesn't really make much sense, considering how power-hungry and "look for any advantage I can get" they seem to be. I'm hoping there's a better explanation.

The other thing that bugs me about the "no guns" is that they still have working engines, other machines. No computers, though. No communications.

The fight sequences were really cool.

Baron Quinn is interesting. Took me a few minutes to realize it was Marton Csokas. Last time I saw him was in The Equalizer, where he was getting his ass handed to him by Denzel Washington.

The Widow - from what I saw last night, and in the various commercials, she seems kind of like a steam-punk kung-fu knock-off of Black Widow.

The whole mysterious kid with mysterious powers who might be the key to everything - yeah, that's not annoying or clichéd in any way.

I might give it an episode or two more. In reality, I'm just hoping they move it to a different time so that Talking Dead can go back to it's regular slot.

Silver Crusade

I watched it for the fight sequences which were pretty badass, as far as story, I can see myself getting bored with this pretty quick kind of like "The Bastard Executioner"


I dunno...assuming stockpiles of guns are depleted, restricting access makes sense. Allowing people swords and such tech isn't really going to hurt your chances of staying in power if you have an army of ninjas. But guns are much easier to learn and kill with versus martial arts.

My major point of confusion was...Is opium the main product of the Barony that is so far the focus of the show? Opium seems an odd crop/resource to concentrate on if there is only trade with 6 other nations/baronies? but maybe this will be dealt with when we learn more about the setting.


I liked it....it is like Game of Thrones but with Kung-fu. Though oddly I hope there are less fight scenes. I get that they need to show how badass the various characters are...so I am okay with it for now...but I think if they show too much of it I think it could get old a little fast.

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Or maybe replace GoT's "sexposition" with "violexposition" where they talk and explain things while fighting.

It's only going to be 6 episodes long, right? So it's not THAT big of an investment.

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I dont think I have ever asked for more exposition and less action until now. The fights are fun but this thing seems to be going nowhere. Not impressed with the pilot.

My old lady is pissed they put this between talking dead as a way to get people to watch it lol.

Scarab Sages

First few minutes of episode 2 and I stopped watching....

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(Black) Widow fighting in heels? Lame.

Oh, and her daughter is introduced as the love interest for Super Power Destiny Boy. Naah...not too cliché.

And the other Baron's having trouble with his a~$~#!& son. Predictable

And, confirmed. They have power. They have working engines. But no guns. That makes zero sense.


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Guns have been outlawed. Not trying to convince to like it or not...but they did mentioned the outlawing of guns in the commercials.

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Yes, but even that makes little sense.

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If these Barons are in such a ruthless competition for power, by now one of them would have started supplementing his army with firearms. Even shotguns can be devastating in this world. You build up your forces in secret, then launch a devastating attack.

And, besides that, why outlaw guns? To cut down on violence? Yeah, that didn't work out too well.....

The only logical reason I can see to outlaw guns, is to help the Barons consolidate their power. You try that, and you're going to have people with guns fighting back. And I doubt the Barons had tons of super martial arts soldiers already trained to wipe out an armed resistance.


They don't like snipers?

Sovereign Court

I dont know how hard you should beat the realistic drum to this show, after all its just a chop suey comic booky type deal anyhow. Even with that exception, its not very good.


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It's very kung fu theater, how much sense should it make?


I actually forgot about this show because I was too busy watching Jessica Jones. Whoops

But um I don't see banning guns as that implausible, assuming you get to a time where they have been out of production for a long while. Guns require comparably minor training in use compared to other long range weapons (or um...ninjas), so are the perfect tool for a grass roots insurgency. The Barons might not get along well, but they would recognize that guns are pretty much the mutually assured destruction of their grip on power.

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And the construction of gunpowder, etc., might be secret knowledge.

I also missed the first 15 minutes or so because of Jessica Jones.

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Given that there are countries with almost no gun ownership today, I don't see any logical difficulty in some future society banning them. Maybe if it were set in the future of the U.S. it would be difficult to believe that they could find ALL of the guns, but I don't think they've specified a location.

I actually found the opium based economy less understandable. Sure, opium has frequently been grown with slave/subsistence labor... but who exactly are they selling it to?

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The other 5 barons and all the workers? Maybe the slaves trade goods and/or services for that product?

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This just proves that the 19 second narration to explain the setting was a stupid idea.


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Given that there are countries with almost no gun ownership today, I don't see any logical difficulty in some future society banning them. Maybe if it were set in the future of the U.S. it would be difficult to believe that they could find ALL of the guns, but I don't think they've specified a location.

I actually found the opium based economy less understandable. Sure, opium has frequently been grown with slave/subsistence labor... but who exactly are they selling it to?

This also greatly bothers me. The only thing I can think of is its used to pacify the lower classes, or that there is some sort of trade with outsiders that is just not been brought up.


Opium may be the cash crop while the Barony is otherwise mostly self-sufficient. I suspect that this is largely true for each of the other Baronies.

Opium's uses for pain relief, interrogation and recreation in a setting where there doesn't appear to be much in the way of art, literature and music ..

I dunno, the show gets a "meh" from me. The setting is missing an awful lot at the moment.

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I lasted 15 minutes then turned it off.


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Aberzombie wrote:
John Kretzer wrote:

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Yes, but even that makes little sense.

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It's fight choreography porn. There are no guns because they would diminish that. Plot reasons are ancillary.

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