Readied action + kinetic blade


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

Is it possible to ready an action to attack with the kineticist's kinetic blade? If so, when does the blade end and am I allowed to threaten with it?

Normally a ranged kineticist but wanted to help the party out a little in melee, but the kinetic blade just seems kinda bad that I'm unable to help flank with it.


you can't threaten with it ever.

Liberty's Edge

It is possible to ready an action to attack with it, but it would only last for that one attack and you would only be able to threaten during that time.

If you ready an action to Kinectic Blade someone at the same time as another player, you would be able to flank for the time that you have the Blade existing.

Get Kinectic Whip to be able to threaten until your next turn.


When you actually perform your readied action, your turn order in the initiative track changes to be RIGHT BEFORE the triggering action's initiative turn.
For example, you rolled a 17 initiative and readied an action if goblin attacks. Goblin at 12 initiative attacks. Your readied action gets moved to a 12, but still before the goblin's 12, and you kinetic blade him.

The kinetic blade lasts until the end of your turn (at your new initiative of 12 from the previous example). So you don't threaten with the blade after your turn ends. You'd need kinetic whip for that.

However, if you were to activate kinetic blade at the beginning of your turn and trigger an AoO that somehow still provokes an AoO from you, you'd threaten.
For example, after you and the goblin traded blows against each other, decided that it's getting a little dicey to stick around, especially as more goblins are approaching. But you don't want this lil bugger to keep breathing! You attack the goblin with kinetic blade, but missed! Next you try to tumble away, you rolled poorly on the acrobatics and provoked an attack of opportunity from the goblin as you try to back off. The goblin, mesmerized by your burning kinetic blade (ok cards on the table, pyrokineticist is my favourite flavour of kineticist and this example will be using fire kinetic blade) and tries to stupidly (goblin) disarm you of your fire blade without possessing the Improved Disarm feat (goblin) in order to brag to his goblin buddies (goblins love fire). He makes a disarm attempt for his AoO, which in turn provokes an AoO from you with your kinetic blade still active because your turn hasn't ended yet. You slice(/burn) him with your AoO with the kinetic blade, killing it finally, and finish your movement/tumble.


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The kineticist is never considered to be wielding or gripping the kinetic blast (regardless of effects from form infusions; see Infusion)

I don't think it can be disarmed. Just look at the kid pyrokineticist and his fire whip from OA. You can't disarm that.


The example involves a stupid goblin wanting a fiery blade.

But for simplicity sake, replace "disarm" with "trip".

Liberty's Edge

Protoman wrote:
For example, after you and the goblin traded blows against each other, decided that it's getting a little dicey to stick around, especially as more goblins are approaching. But you don't want this lil bugger to keep breathing! You attack the goblin with kinetic blade, but missed! Next you try to tumble away, you rolled poorly on the acrobatics and provoked an attack of opportunity from the goblin as you try to back off. The goblin, mesmerized by your burning kinetic blade (ok cards on the table, pyrokineticist is my favourite flavour of kineticist and this example will be using fire kinetic blade) and tries to stupidly (goblin) disarm you of your fire blade without possessing the Improved Disarm feat (goblin) in order to brag to his goblin buddies (goblins love fire). He makes a disarm attempt for his AoO, which in turn provokes an AoO from you with your kinetic blade still active because your turn hasn't ended yet. You slice(/burn) him with your AoO with the kinetic blade, killing it finally, and finish your movement/tumble.

That is awesome goblin rp btw. And I'm with you on pyrokineticists, awesome flavour(extra crispy). And we get iron man mode!

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