Some help with my build

[Targutai Minyatur]

Well, first of all im a new pathfinder player so my knowledge of the game
is quite reduced.
Its my first campaign (another player and i started to play in an existent one so our characters are one or two levels behind other players)
The thing is i wanted to be more focused on the support so i went lawful-good cleric, and as i wanted to ranged atack (i recognice i didnt want to get killed in my first day so it was the way to go to play safe) i chosed elf and i get a bow.
Right now im lvl 3, due to recent events i lost all my equipment so i have to buy new weapon.
Mainly i use buffs or heal when is necesary but theres situations where the best action is to just attack, so i was thinking on build a crossbow and use "holy ice weapon" to create a bolt (+1 frost damage per level plus 1d4 acid dame if the outsider is evil, at lvl 6 at the end of the turn the proyectile melts and re-appeears on your hand) i cant use it with double shots becouse the proyectile is only one, but with a heavy crossbow it would be 1d10 +6 ice damage +1d4 sounds prety good.
what do you think? is worth?
So far i have point blank shot and alignment channel feats (all in the team are lawful-good)
my stats are
Str 10
Dex 16
int 9
Wis 18
cha 10

Any advice?

[Rosc]

What deity does the character worship? If it's Erastil (he is REALLY good for ranged clerics) then you already get bows proficiency for free and you don't need to be an elf if you'd rather not.

Channeling is going to do less damage thanks to your lower charisma making it easier to resist. Consider retraining Alignment Channel into Precise Shot, since not having the feat means you'll suffer a -4 penalty for firing into melee, even if you have a clear shot. Rapid Shot and Deadly Aim will help your damage output later in the game.

Also, consider talking to the DM about finding ways to catch up to the party's level.

Edit: don't worry too much about focusing on Support. Your spells are the best way to do that and you already have good wisdom. Your charisma is too low to make Chenneling your focus, and traditionally that's how clerics flex their support muscles.

[Targutai Minyatur]

I workship Cayden Cailean, i just loved the roleplay arround him.
And have travel and liberation domains

[FLite]

This will get a lot more advice in the advice forum.

Also is this character for PFS? If so, you can recover all your lost equipment (if you want it) by spending 5 Prestige Points. (If the character is not for PFS, you are really in the wrong forum.)

[Targutai Minyatur]

I talked with the GM but he doesnt want to return it to me
Its not a big deal, the money isgeneral in the group and i only have the longbow and a lether armor

[Rosc]

Targutai Minyatur wrote:

I workship Cayden Cailean, i just loved the roleplay arround him.

And have travel and liberation domains

Cailean's a Chaotic Good god, and your character is Lawful Good, right? By the rules, you cannot gain divine power from that god.

I'm going to go ahead and assume that this is a home game. In which case, yeah, doesn't belong in the PFS General. But hey, it's a common enough mistake. You should see how often this comes up on Reddit.

[Targutai Minyatur]

But isnt him good? I thinked that if the god was good i could be lawful-good
Sorry im a bit noob haha

[Rei]

Cayden Cailean is not only good, he's also chaotic. There are two axes of alignment, lawful-chaotic and good-evil. Since Cayden Cailean is chaotic, he does not give powers to characters of a lawful alignment, just like he wouldn't give powers to an evil character.

[Corvus Cailean]

If you want to worhip the accidental god you need to loosen up a little.

*hic* fortunately our churches are also bars....

Slides him a pint

[Targutai Minyatur]

Ok thanks everyone to answer! its a home game bt next time i will have this on mind before creating the character
Think i will be forced to play chaotic-good as ther´s no other god for me

[Fruian Thistlefoot]

Channel feats are s%&# for clerics. It is a sub par ability. Healing NEVER out weights incoming damage.

It is best to prevent damage than try to heal through.

Focusing on a bow and channel feats is spreading yourself too thin on a feat starved class like cleric.

Pathfinder rewards specialization over generalization.

[Kigvan]

Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:

Healing NEVER out weights incoming damage.

While this is generally true, healing can keep the damage dealers in the fight long enough to end it rather than having them fall.

[Dhargoh Stonewalker]

You appear to be undead as you don't have any Con stat. I would hope the omitted stat is at least a 12.

I can't tell if this is rolled stats or low point build. Either way, I'd switch Dex and Cha and get Breastplate/Shield as soon as possible. You need Cha 13 for Selective Channelling and Cha (lots) for more channels (and more effective when channeling to damage). Extra Channel is also good, particularly if you don't swap your Cha higher.

As your team mates level higher, their damage will continue to increase. Yours won't. If nothing else is going on that needs your specific abilities, then fire off an arrow and if you get a hit... Great!, but it'll still only be 1-8 damage. Your top fighter just did 60 and the arcane blaster maybe 30 if it saves. Your job is to keep your buddies standing, 2 or even 3 d6 isn't much, but it might be the difference between unconscious and the morgue. Build your Cleric accordingly.

[Fruian Thistlefoot]

There is a difference between the occasional cure X wounds and taking up multiple feats for channel energy just to have half the team not benifit in combat. Thus wasting your priceless feats.

Channel energy is good between battles when multiple people need touched up.
If only 1 person needs touched up between battles then a CLW wand is just fine.

During combat a larger cure might be needed but if your entire role in the party is to fix every boo boo and scratch then your deffinatly not living up to your potential and playing reactively to the enemy. That gives them advantage.

I'm not saying I'm against the occasional heal...but I am against making someone focus on healing to the point they are not contributing anything else.

I'm sure there are people that want to argue healers are viable and someone should always play one. But they are stuck in the old 2e DnD group make ups of: fighter type, cleric, rogue, and wizard. Pathfinder has proven the rtradtional roles are limiting and really is a narrow view of combat.

[Heretek]

This whole thing has me with a bad taste in my mouth. You're a brand new player and the DM is deliberately making you 1-2 levels below everyone else? B~+!#+#s.

Worse yet, you somehow get all your gear taken from you, and the DM hasn't even helped you build your character enough to realize you can't be LG and worship a CG god?

This is all sorts of wrong.

[Targutai Minyatur]

Thing is i live in a small city and ther´s only one pathfinder group... i just came one day without knowing anyone and say may i play? i dont blame anyone, guess with time i will learn how to play well and use correctly my character
another question.. is a good idea to use Spiritual Weapon as it use wis as attack bonnus?

[Finlanderboy]

You can be Neutral good with cayden. You are allowed one step away from a god alignment. Cayden would allow, NG, CG, or CN.

Neutral good, would probably suit you better.\

Crossbow are kinda junky. Get a magical bow since you are an elf. You can tear it up with a bow.

Just get all the bow feats

Lvl 1 point blank shot
lvl 3 precise shot
lvl 5 multi-shot

You should do fine.

[Dhargoh Stonewalker]

Spiritual Weapon is a much better choice than a bow as long as you have spell slots available, bow is still a nice fallback. Note that it is in the form of a Rapier and has the crit range and multiplier of that weapon. If your level were equal to your team mates I would suggest Shield Other, but your HP is so far below them, it is just suicide.

Don't overthink your character too much. See what your group needs and try to fit into that, unless it's no fun for you. Thistlefoot alludes to groups that hit on a 2 and are hit only on 20s, if you are in this kind of group, there won't be much need for a healer which may not be a lot of fun for you. But you may also find that you are the only one who does any damage at all. I was recently in a level 6-7 PFS game with a 4th level melee specialized fighter and was the only one doing damage, with my bow. I had the only character with a range weapon of any kind. A lot of specialized builds see their damage output drop to 0 if the encounter is outside of their specialization. If there is a gap like that in your group you could try to fill it.

BTW the only equipment you really need is a holy symbol, and Cayden's is a tankard. ;)

[BretI]

See if the GM will allow you to swap out the Alignment Channel for Precise Shot.

Get a bow, it is so much better than a crossbow it isn't even funny. Specifically, get a composite longbow fit to your strength. Since the whole group is supposed to be LG, you might see if they will get you the bow now so you will be more effective.

Divine Favor works with bows.

You will probably stop after Precise Shot on Archery feats. Look into meta-magic feats, improved initiative (so your buffing spells go off before the first attacks), and depending on group perhaps a teamwork feat.

Assuming the attributes on your avatar are the character you are running, you don't have a high enough Charisma to do much with channelling. Out of combat healing, and my be sometimes a channel to harm undead. Expect to only do half damage, that way it is a pleasant surprise if you get full damage.