Sensate Fighter question (Occult Adventures)

[alair223]

I really like the look of this archetype and am interested in giving it a go in a game I am in.

However there is one thing I am unsure of at that is the Centered Senses ability. It doesn't state a length merely that it requires a move action to enter and a sensate loses his centered state if he gains the confused, dazed, fascinated, staggered, or stunned condition; falls unconscious; or fails a Will save.

So if I am reading this right you don't leave the state unless one of these conditions occur? Does this mean I can get up in the morning enter the centered state and stay that way until I go to bed (or get one of the other conditions)?

[Mark Seifter]

alair223 wrote:

I really like the look of this archetype and am interested in giving it a go in a game I am in.

However there is one thing I am unsure of at that is the Centered Senses ability. It doesn't state a length merely that it requires a move action to enter and a sensate loses his centered state if he gains the confused, dazed, fascinated, staggered, or stunned condition; falls unconscious; or fails a Will save.

So if I am reading this right you don't leave the state unless one of these conditions occur? Does this mean I can get up in the morning enter the centered state and stay that way until I go to bed (or get one of the other conditions)?

Yup! Sensate is pretty awesome that way.

[alair223]

Mark Seifter wrote:

Yup! Sensate is pretty awesome that way.

Well that is good to hear. I like the sensate as it is a versatile fighter archetype. The base fighter is utterly flexible with their weapons and armor while almost all the other archetypes are so specialized that they demand specific builds.

The sensate can work well with a dex or str focus (though dex helps that evasion), can work well with almost any weapon since centered senses boosts every weapon, it bolsters the fighters major weak spot, and gives them some very useful class skills for feeling like they are accomplishing something with their 2 skill points.

Usually when I am playing the front liner for a party I try not to specialize too heavily so I can run with whatever loot we find so adding another fighter archetype that is free flowing gives me some more options.

[Secret Wizard]

I love the Sensate, my only concern is how little skill points it gets.

Wouldn't have minded if it also traded Medium Armor Proficiency for 4+INT SP/level.

[CGM3]

The archetype description says Centered Senses replaces weapon training 2, 3 & 4; there is nothing that explicitly replaces weapon training 1.

Is weapon training 1 still available to the sensate (e.g. choose a weapon group such as Heavy Blades at 5th level for another +1 bonus to hit and damage)? And if so, does it also increase by +1 at each subsequent 5th level? (I doubt it, but one can hope). Or is weapon training 1 implicitly subsumed by Centered Senses?

I'm adapting the class to The Only Sheet, so I orient on the mechanics.

[CGM3]

Follow up: checked the Pathfinder OGC site (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/), where the Sensate's Centered Senses feature is described as replacing weapon training 1, 2, 3 & 4, so that's settled.

[MrCharisma]

It should be noted that thre PFSRD sote is NOT an official site, and is sometimes incorrect.

However ...

FAQ wrote:

Sensate Fighter: The Sensate Fighter doesn’t mention trading out Weapon Training 1, but it gains an extremely similar ability at 5th level, the same level as Weapon Training 1. Should it also trade out Weapon Training 1?

Yes. This will be reflected in the next errata.