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The OP guide says, "Religion: Characters can elect to worship any deity listed in a table of gods in the Core Rulebook, The Inner Sea World Guide, Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Gods and Magic, or any other source listed as an official Additional Resource. ... Otherwise, characters who do not receive powers from a divine source may choose to be atheists or to have no deity at all."

Does this mean that a non-divine class character could choose to worship a non-legal god, as it has no practical effect? (I'm thinking specifically of this one .)

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Pretty much. Mechanically you're an atheist though.

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RAZMIR BE PRAISED

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All hail the all knowing masked master Razmir!!!!

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Are there mechanical effects of being an atheist?

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I have a surprisingly effective cleric of razmir named elrond halberd.

you just gotta get creative, that's all. and have a *very* loose definition of "divine".

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Ring_of_Gyges wrote:
Are there mechanical effects of being an atheist?

Not really. Every once in a while there's a minor effect of being a worshiper of certain deities but you'd never get those with an obscure god anyway.

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In Pathfinder Society Organized play, the word "worship" carries a specific connotation.

The connotation, is that in choosing the word "worship" you are taking that Deity as your patron in the effort to gain some game mechanic advantage. Whether that be in giving yourself access to feats, traits, spells, items, or class specific abilities like particular domains, sub-domains, inquisitions, etc. To gain any of this, your alignment must be within 1 step of the deity's alignment.

If you want to follow a deity that you are not within 1 alignment step, or that you have no care about gaining mechanical benefits, then the word to use would be "venerate."

This is not specifically splitting hairs, because the Guide to organized play needs to be able to use some sort of word to determine who gets mechanical benefits and who does not. The word chosen was "worship."


Ok, so my sorcerer can "venerate" Desna without changing her alignment, but can't "worship" her.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Ring_of_Gyges wrote:
Are there mechanical effects of being an atheist?
Not really. Every once in a while there's a minor effect of being a worshiper of certain deities but you'd never get those with an obscure god anyway.

actually, several of my PCs are from Rahadoum and I slap the Pathfinders Tales chronicle for Death's Heretic on them. The first boon from that Chronicle reads something like:

Faithless: Your life in Rahadoum has instilled in you a fierce independence and indomitalb eself-cofidence. So long as you have no patron deity, you gain a +1 bonus on saving throws against divine spells for one scenario. When this bonus is used, cross it off your Chronicle

It is just a one shot Boon - but if you know the scenario is going to have a bunch of divine casters in it....

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Vutava wrote:
Ok, so my sorcerer can "venerate" Desna without changing her alignment, but can't "worship" her.

If your sorcerer is not NG, CG, or CN, you would be correct.

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My joyous discovery last week: with the AR entry on Inner Sea Gods, the Goblin Hero-Gods are all PFS legal.

Cleric of Venkelvore? Totally legit now.

/derail

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this discussion inspired me to roll up a new paladin of razmir. I call him tomas kroos. because I'm a terrible person.

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melferburque wrote:
this discussion inspired me to roll up a new paladin of razmir. I call him tomas kroos. because I'm a terrible person.

Home game...great.

PFS...Paladins must worship a LN, LG, or NG deity.

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Kevin Ingle wrote:
melferburque wrote:
this discussion inspired me to roll up a new paladin of razmir. I call him tomas kroos. because I'm a terrible person.

Home game...great.

PFS...Paladins must worship a LN, LG, or NG deity.

well sure, if you're ACTUALLY a paladin. nothing stopping you from being a zealot in full plate claiming to be a paladin with a crazy high bluff skill tho.

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melferburque wrote:
Kevin Ingle wrote:
melferburque wrote:
this discussion inspired me to roll up a new paladin of razmir. I call him tomas kroos. because I'm a terrible person.

Home game...great.

PFS...Paladins must worship a LN, LG, or NG deity.

well sure, if you're ACTUALLY a paladin. nothing stopping you from being a zealot in full plate claiming to be a paladin with a crazy high bluff skill tho.

Party: "Can you see if there's evidence of Evil around here?"

You: "Not that kind of paladin."

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Serisan wrote:

Party: "Can you see if there's evidence of Evil around here?"

You: "Not that kind of paladin."

actually, I can... but usually I just assume everything is evil. enemies of the faith, after all.

I just warn the GM before the game... "I detect evil" means I'm talking out my ass, "do I detect evil?" means I'm casting the spell.

I'm still working on some of the more nuanced bits of paladin abilities, but I think I can pull it off well enough. I can't wait for paizocon!

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Ring_of_Gyges wrote:
Are there mechanical effects of being an atheist?

Yes, as an atheist you can take the feat Godless Healing from the Inner Sea World Guide. Surprisingly, it's saved my PFS Wizard's hide at least five times that I can recall.

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PRAISE VECTRON!

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