Alchemist Extracts Spell DC

[Minion5051]

I understand how it usually works but what about when an Alchemist uses an effect like Fox's Cunning to boost their spellcasting stat? Should he cast the spell at the beginning of the day when he's preparing his extracts? Or does it enhance the extracts that he has already made that day? Since they are essentially potions I would think that it needs to be in effect when he makes them, but I'm not sure.

Edited the Title because I realized I was wrong to call them infusions. My guy may have the discovery but not everyone does.

[Darrell Impey UK]

"An extract is “cast” by drinking it, as if imbibing a potion—the effects of an extract exactly duplicate the spell upon which its formula is based, save that the spell always affects only the drinking alchemist." APG.

If drinking is casting then I would say that their Intelligence at that point (for better or worse) would be what's relevant. If nothing else, remember that Wizards have to prepare their spells in the morning too, but it's their Int at the point of casting that sets tne DC.

[_Ozy_]

The trickiness comes into play if you've handed out infusions to your party members, and then boosted your INT.

Technically, by RAW, it would seem the alchemists' current intelligence would provide the DC even if it were prepared earlier in the morning, and drunk by a completely different person.

[Some Random Dood]

Darrell Impey UK wrote:

"An extract is “cast” by drinking it, as if imbibing a potion—the effects of an extract exactly duplicate the spell upon which its formula is based, save that the spell always affects only the drinking alchemist." APG.

If drinking is casting then I would say that their Intelligence at that point (for better or worse) would be what's relevant. If nothing else, remember that Wizards have to prepare their spells in the morning too, but it's their Int at the point of casting that sets tne DC.

I agree. The way I see it is, the alchemist is a prepared caster, just like the wizard. So I'd think it would function just like it does for any other prepared caster.

[Minion5051]

Thanks for all the replies. I think I've figured it out with the rules from the potion section as well. I was treating it as if the DC of potions was decided by the caster when it is made but it is not. It's the drinker.

"The drinker of a potion is both the effective target and the caster of the effect (though the potion indicates the caster level, the drinker still controls the effect)."