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Oh gods no. If any superhero actually ever used their powers intelligently there wouldn't be a heroic story to tell - they are equipped with so much overpowered stuff.
The entire genre of movie superheroes relies on nothing being well thought out - including powers.
So true. :)
I dunno. Ironman and Thor both went toe-to-toe with the Hulk. Antman is literally not capable of even making the Hulk notice he's there, right?
Depends on the powers. If he's got Giant-Man powers, then, at 1000x strength and toughness, he's actually stronger than the Hulk, just using the comic-book numbers from ye olde days (when they had strength ratings, instead of just 'can break worlds' or 'power of 1000 exploding hyperboles' or whatever).
If he can just shrink, it depends on how small he can get, and how much toughness he retains when shrunk. If he can go sub-cellular and get into the Hulk's brain or spinal cord, and expand to the size of a peanut, the Hulk's going to go 'urk!' and fall over paralyzed. (I'd avoid trying to plug a Hulk carotid and stroke him out, since I'm thinking that Hulk-heart is a Hulk-muscle, and probably beats with sufficient force to unplug a clogged artery with extreme amounts of Ant-Man squishing force. Also, not wanting to know what gamma-enhanced Hulk-white-blood-cells can do to a wee tiny little man. I'm thinking it would be much like the movie Pirahna...)
Still, small things suck, when they are lodged somewhere you don't have muscles (or white blood cells), but need to move around and yell 'Hulk smash' and stuff, like brains and spinal cords.
Oh gods no. If any superhero actually ever used their powers intelligently there wouldn't be a heroic story to tell - they are equipped with so much overpowered stuff.
The entire genre of movie superheroes relies on nothing being well thought out - including powers.
So true. :)
I dunno. Ironman and Thor both went toe-to-toe with the Hulk. Antman is literally not capable of even making the Hulk notice he's there, right?Depends on the powers. If he's got Giant-Man powers, then, at 1000x strength and toughness, he's actually stronger than the Hulk, just using the comic-book numbers from ye olde days (when they had strength ratings, instead of just 'can break worlds' or 'power of 1000 exploding hyperboles' or whatever).
If he can just shrink, it depends on how small he can get, and how much toughness he retains when shrunk. If he can go sub-cellular and get into the Hulk's brain or spinal cord, and expand to the size of a peanut, the Hulk's going to go 'urk!' and fall over paralyzed. (I'd avoid trying to plug a Hulk carotid and stroke him out, since I'm thinking that Hulk-heart is a Hulk-muscle, and probably beats with sufficient force to unplug a clogged artery with extreme amounts of Ant-Man squishing force. Also, not wanting to know what gamma-enhanced Hulk-white-blood-cells can do to a wee tiny little man. I'm thinking it would be much like the movie Pirahna...)
Still, small things suck, when they are lodged somewhere you don't have muscles (or white blood cells), but need to move around and yell 'Hulk smash' and stuff, like brains and spinal cords.
it's how I would use my shrinking powers.
In my losh fanfiction I had color kid take out a group of terrorists by making their visors snowbird white on the inside. They were genuinely blind for a few hours. It's not the power, it's how you use it.
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Oh gods no. If any superhero actually ever used their powers intelligently there wouldn't be a heroic story to tell - they are equipped with so much overpowered stuff.
The entire genre of movie superheroes relies on nothing being well thought out - including powers.
So true. :)
I dunno. Ironman and Thor both went toe-to-toe with the Hulk. Antman is literally not capable of even making the Hulk notice he's there, right?Depends on the powers. If he's got Giant-Man powers, then, at 1000x strength and toughness, he's actually stronger than the Hulk, just using the comic-book numbers from ye olde days (when they had strength ratings, instead of just 'can break worlds' or 'power of 1000 exploding hyperboles' or whatever).
If he can just shrink, it depends on how small he can get, and how much toughness he retains when shrunk. If he can go sub-cellular and get into the Hulk's brain or spinal cord, and expand to the size of a peanut, the Hulk's going to go 'urk!' and fall over paralyzed. (I'd avoid trying to plug a Hulk carotid and stroke him out, since I'm thinking that Hulk-heart is a Hulk-muscle, and probably beats with sufficient force to unplug a clogged artery with extreme amounts of Ant-Man squishing force. Also, not wanting to know what gamma-enhanced Hulk-white-blood-cells can do to a wee tiny little man. I'm thinking it would be much like the movie Pirahna...)
Still, small things suck, when they are lodged somewhere you don't have muscles (or white blood cells), but need to move around and yell 'Hulk smash' and stuff, like brains and spinal cords.
Have you watched the movie? It seems from it that he "can't" go sub-nuclear small.
Also, in the first Avengers movie it is described that a suicide attempt by Bruce Banner of shooting himself at the brain ended up with the Hulk spitting the bullet out, so I wouldn't be surprised to fins his brain is invulnerable as well.
It's not a matter of invulnerability, just making life uncomfortable for him.
I don't think talking to ants should be a schtick, i think it should be the most underrated power ever. If yellow jacket doesn't get eaten by a horde of ants, I'll be disappointed.
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I don't think Antman has ever been able to go sub-cellular. That's the Atom's schtick.
I was speculating about the MCU version. The comic-book Pym can shrink so small that he falls out of the universe (and has been shown going sub-molecular, before that happens), so sub-cellular would be easy-peasy for the comic-book version.
But it is true that he does it less than the Atom, and it's the Wasp who has shrunk down and hurt the Hulk, not Pym himself.
Pym's actually pretty unoriginal for a science-hero.
Then again, Iron Man used to invent stuff in mid-fight all the time. These days it's all fly around, quippy comment, repulsor blast.
Nor in Pym's various giant guises has he ever been nearly as strong as the Hulk. Primarily because Marvel, like every other pop culture use of giant size people or creatures, ignores the square cube law. Both from the "He wouldn't be able to stand up at that size" and the "If he could his muscles would have to be 1000x as strong" perspectives. Though at various points he'd start getting weaker if he got too big, which could be seen as a nod to the square-cube thing.
Sadly, like most science-based supers, he's not written by people who remember their high school science (I majored in English, so I didn't learn about square-cube in college!), so yeah, he's almost never been portrayed as strong and tough as he would have to be just to stand unsupported without his bones and muscles shattering and tearing apart and leaving him a giant puddle of gore and giblets.
Colossal Boy or Giganta, from DC, should similarly be powerhouses (when they have room to grow!), and not taken out like giant chumps all the time. Growing characters in comic books seem to exist solely so that someone can knock them down and quip 'the bigger they are...' :)
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I think they set up his growing power in the third act... It just will be a later reveal.
Also, his fight with Falcon shows how useful shrinking can be.
His use of ants is pretty important to this film, too.
I'm as fine with ignoring square cube law as I am with my Pathfinder dragons flying.
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Just got back from seeing it with the wife. It was a very well done movie - ok plot, great special effects and action sequences. Michael Douglas was excellent. So was Paul Rudd. Lots of little nods to the comics and the way it fits into the overall cinematic universe was pretty cool.
I can't wait to see what further stuff they do with the character. Should be awesome. They already built in a reason as to who's side he'll be on in Civil War.
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I don't think talking to ants should be a schtick, i think it should be the most underrated power ever. If yellow jacket doesn't get eaten by a horde of ants, I'll be disappointed.
You might be a tiny bit disappointed. And keep a close watch out for the Joss Whedon cameo.
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Just saw it again. Loved it just as much as the first time. Really cannot stress how good Corey Stoll was as Darren Cross/Yellowjacket. He just got the attitude perfect, he was really believable as someone whose love and respect for his mentor became bitter hatred when he felt he'd been betrayed.
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Just saw it again. Loved it just as much as the first time. Really cannot stress how good Corey Stoll was as Darren Cross/Yellowjacket. He just got the attitude perfect, he was really believable as someone whose love and respect for his mentor became bitter hatred when he felt he'd been betrayed.
I liked how self centered the character is. It gave him another aspect of personality that most Marvel villains lack. He was always talking about himself and his feelings and ideas and such. It was all about him, all the time. He was also unconsciously condescending like some New Age doof, with his "An epiphany occurred to me in my morning yoga session" routine.
It isn't like the movie was a character study of the villain, but there was definitely more there than the usual "nurr durr I is bad" that Marvel villains usually boil down to.
One thing that bugged me about the villain:
I can't remember who was talking about it, but regarding
Remember, the explosives in Agent Carter drew everything in, but also left wreckage (basically compressing everything into a fairly large ball). That's how they first got onto Jarvis, because they found the numberplate from one of Stark's cars in the ruins from Roxxon Oil. Pym Tech seemed to leave no traces whatsoever.
I don't think talking to ants should be a schtick, i think it should be the most underrated power ever. If yellow jacket doesn't get eaten by a horde of ants, I'll be disappointed.You might be a tiny bit disappointed. And keep a close watch out for the Joss Whedon cameo.
great.
Now I can't stop thinking about whedon being eaten by a horde of ants.
Look what you did!
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I don't think talking to ants should be a schtick, i think it should be the most underrated power ever. If yellow jacket doesn't get eaten by a horde of ants, I'll be disappointed.You might be a tiny bit disappointed. And keep a close watch out for the Joss Whedon cameo.great.
Now I can't stop thinking about whedon being eaten by a horde of ants.
Look what you did!
You're welcome!
Saw it yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it. I daresay I liked it better than Guardians of the Galaxy.
Something to consider though...Antman as set up in the movie isn't really meant to be a bruiser, like Hulk and Thor. What he excels at is the sneaky stuff...he's basically the rogue of the MCU avengers, as he can sneak into and out of anyplace better than anyone.
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I saw it Thursday night and I pretty much think that it's a better movie than AGE OF ULTRON. Not in term of spectacle but in terms of craft and not being a constant advertisement for other Marvel films.
I'm a big MCU fan but the farther away I get from AOU the less I like it because of the constant need to set up the future and not getting us to invest in the story that's being told NOW.
Just came back from Antman. It's a pretty cool movie worth the ticket price
The Good:
The casting was great. Paul Rudd makes an excellent Scott Lange, and they are setting up a very different type of hero from the earlier MCU heros. Michael Douglas makes a good Hank Pym
Effects were also awesome. A movie with this much size-related CGI and ants could easily have looked kind of fake (see...Green Lantern), but I never got that vibe
Antman is a character with a set of abilities that could be really hard to sell to and audience. That they made the character awesome while staying true to the abilities of the character is pretty cool.
The director/writers were actually able to make people feel bad about the death of an ant...
and the Bad:
The movie had a troubled development, and you can kind of see that in the script. the overall plot and characters are there, but I can't help but think a few extra passes would have helped. The movie obviously had Father-offspring relationships as a key component, but it really only worked for Scott Lange and Cassie. Hope and Pym, or Pym and Cross...we get these character interactions through straight exposition, rather than being shown.
Also...I mean the villain was pretty cartoonish. It's hard to see this guy seeing Hank as a mentor figure and going evil over that, when nothing in his earlier scenes suggested he wasn't a straight sociopath from the very beginning.
Like I said everything is there, and the above problems could have been fixed with a couple more script revisions.
Finally...I admit...the action scene with Antman vs Falcon was awesome. It was great and funny. But um...I can't help but feel this whole thing existed merely to inform Civil War, rather than actually contributing to the plot of this movie.
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I saw it Thursday night and I pretty much think that it's a better movie than AGE OF ULTRON. Not in term of spectacle but in terms of craft and not being a constant advertisement for other Marvel films.
I'm a big MCU fan but the farther away I get from AOU the less I like it because of the constant need to set up the future and not getting us to invest in the story that's being told NOW.
Age of Ultron certainly has some structural issues, but they do balance out with the payoff this lumbering structure is built to support - you get to see all the Avengers fighting and working together as a team. That's some seerious payoff, and despite Antman being a more than decent execution of its core premise, that just can't compete with Age of Ultron. In my objectively correct opinion, of course.
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oh also did anyone catch?
The Spiderman reference when Falcon is talking to the reporter in the ending storytelling scene?
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Just got back from Ant-Man, and this is a new favorite.
I loved the light-hearted tone, mixed with the serious elements (father/daughter relationships and coming to terms with loss and learning to make better decisions after mistakes among them).
Michael Pena did indeed steal various scenes he was in, particularly in his Ferris Bueller-like recounting of third-hand tales.
It had the usual Marvel movie elements, including a pair of end credit stingers (one building on the current film, one setting up for Civil War) and the obligatory Stan Lee cameo.
I think it was even funnier than Guardians of the Galaxy, and any apprehension I may have had going in (reading all the doomsaying about it possibly being the first 'flop' coming from Marvel) or reservations about the decision to phase out the Wasp and make Pym a retired ex-hero/adventurer were set to rest by how good the movie was.
I thoroughly enjoyed it and the different tone it set for the hero. I loved the name dropping when Cross was needling Pym. "Tales to Astonish". That was rich.
I also really liked the variations they took with the story with Hank Pym as the aging former hero passing on the name and tech to a new generation rather than trying to work Pym into the current cinematic Avenger continuity. And, of course, what they're doing with the Wasp.
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The movie knew what it was going in (a narrow-focus caper), and kept to its roots. It feels like an Ocean's or Italian Job movie, while retaining the je ne sais quoi that makes an MCU movie an MCU movie. Micheal Douglas was at the top of his impeccable game, giving a performance that he hasn't matched since the 80's (with a fitting 80's flashback to a younger, awesomer Douglas to boot). Rudd and Lily were middling compared to the other mains within the MCU, but the supporting cast, particularly Pena and the over the top Baddie, kept it from bogging down from performances. In my personal MCU spreadsheet for SOLO flicks, Ant-Man is somewhere between Winter Solider (#1) and Iron Man (#5ish), fighting Agent Carter and Iron Man 2 for place in the top 5.
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The humor wasn't slapstick (Guardians), and tended to be more irony and subtlety than we're used to for Marvel.
The stakes in the MCU were just as real here as they were in any mainline hero's movie. Hydra and all.
Negatives:
We have Obadiah Stane without the gravitas that Bridges brought to Iron Man. Literally, this is the same bad guy with nearly identical motivations.
It seemed like Douglas recorded all audio in a different studio than everybody else, cause he was 15% louder. It may have just been our theater not being right (or it could have just been the fact that he is >15% awesomer than anyone else in the movie).
I liked it a lot. I enjoyed the smaller nature of the story and implementation. Part of me wishes that they had gone full oceans 11 all the way through and not had a big violent conflict at the end, or that if they were going to go big they had Lang get caught and had to suit up Wasp to bust him out.
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I saw it Thursday night and I pretty much think that it's a better movie than AGE OF ULTRON.
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:-DI saw it Thursday night and I pretty much think that it's a better movie than AGE OF ULTRON.
Honestly, Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man are now tied for my favourite MCU films. The Avengers films are cool (and James Spader is amazing as Ultron) but the blend of comedy and action is what really draws me in.
Honestly, Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man are now tied for my favourite MCU films. The Avengers films are cool (and James Spader is amazing as Ultron) but the blend of comedy and action is what really draws me in.:-DI saw it Thursday night and I pretty much think that it's a better movie than AGE OF ULTRON.
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Age of Ultron certainly has some structural issues, but they do balance out with the payoff this lumbering structure is built to support - you get to see all the Avengers fighting and working together as a team. That's some seerious payoff, and despite Antman being a more than decent execution of its core premise, that just can't compete with Age of Ultron. In my objectively correct opinion, of course.I saw it Thursday night and I pretty much think that it's a better movie than AGE OF ULTRON. Not in term of spectacle but in terms of craft and not being a constant advertisement for other Marvel films.
I'm a big MCU fan but the farther away I get from AOU the less I like it because of the constant need to set up the future and not getting us to invest in the story that's being told NOW.
AOU has a disjointed narrative and the fact that I didnt really care about what was going to happen to ANYONE was an issue. The fact that ULTRON, one of the AVENGERS deadliest enemies came across like a snarky petulant child and not the threat that he should actually be. The fact that it was basically the first movie all over again without much of the fun and "OH S**T!* moments of the first movie.
Also?
Yes I understand that he was just strafing either innocent civilians at that point but C'mon! If they were determined to kill Quicksilver they could have come up with a more meaningful way to do it.
Coulson's death (even though it was later undone) was perfect. It was up close, personal and quite honestly kinda brutal. It was also a character that had been around since the first MCU movie so we LIKED him. This death? MEH.
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I'm definitely realizing that I much prefer the smaller scale of movies like Ant-Man, Iron Man and Captain America to movies with larger casts.
I'm the exact opposite with comic books, preferring team books, even books with ridiculously large teams, like the Legion of Super-Heroes, which must be a function of comics coming out every month, and having plenty of opportunities to slow down the action and develop the characters. With a movie coming out every two years, and having to allot a certain amount of time to big action pieces, the development and characterization gets increasingly marginalized in team movies (which is less of a problem for characters like Iron Man, Captain America and Thor, who have solo movies to pick up some of that slack, but no help at all for Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch or, especially, Quicksilver).
And so, I find myself looking forward more to Dr. Strange, Black Panther, etc. than I do to Civil War or Infinity Gauntlet.
For me it's not as much as team movie vs. smaller movie. My favorite MCU film is WINTER SOLDIER and that one has Cap, Black Widow, Winter Soldier and Falcon. It's smaller is scope than say the two Avengers movies but the stakes (both for the world and for Cap personally) are pretty damn high. It has a one HUGE action set piece at the end but by that time it's taken enough time to define the characters that we give a crap about them. I really think that we learn more about Natasha in this movie than in any other of her appearances and she might be the one character who has the most important arc in the movie.
Filmakers have been making ensemble films FOREVER, from even before Kurasawa's SHICHININ NO SAMURAI to THE DIRTY DOZEN, KELLY'S HEROES, to John Sayles films like CITY OF HOPE, MATAWAN and LONE STAR. These are GOOD films with LARGE casts so it can be done. And I think that theyre going to need to find a away to do it well by the time the first INFINITY WAR movie comes out. I trust the Russos (more so than I trust Whedon and I'm not a Whedon hater I just think that AOU was a subpar Marvel movie on almost all fronts. I STILL enjoyed it but...) to have it figured out before filming starts. With them doing CIVIL WAR then going right into INFINITY WAR it's going to be one hell of a slog for them...
I don't think it's so much having large ensemble casts which is the problem, its having large ensemble casts + big fight scenes + laying ground work for various future movies. There just isn't much room to breath.
I like Age of Ultron, and thought it was about as good a movie as could be expected. However it had a lot more heavy lifting to do than Avengers. In Avengers...almost all of the character were prestablished, even the main villain. And while everyone got a little bit of character development, the movie didn't really set up future movies in the same way that Age of Ultron did.
Age of Ultron had an entirely new villain, on top of introducing Klaw and taking down Strucker. They also introduced three major characters (Vision, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver), fleshed out Hawkeye, explained the Infinity Stones, and set up aspects that would play into Civil War, Thor 3, and Infinity War. The movie was just so packed there was hardly any room to breath, and in hindsight its really obvious that 45 minutes were cut from the movie.
That's why I am looking forward to but I am also extremely worried about Civil War, which has if anything an even bigger roster of characters.
I enjoyed Ant-man, better then I thought it would be.
I am curious on how they are going to make civil war work.
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Age of Ultron... was just too much, yet had no nutritional value. Like eating 6 happy meals in a row.
I don't think it's a good excuse to make a s@@+ty movie for the sake of setting up future ones... which may turn out to be s~%!ty as well.
I agree with posters above in terms of preferring Winter Soldier over Avengers. Smaller movies are definitely better. You need some semblance of character development to make it digestible.
Not mention the backhanded slap across the face of Age of Ultron given by the Marvel: Agents of SHIELD show ("Guys, the world almost came to an end... good job on all that... now back barely managing our own asses on a g~!**@n aircraft carrier!")
I don't think it's so much having large ensemble casts which is the problem, its having large ensemble casts + big fight scenes + laying ground work for various future movies. There just isn't much room to breath.
Yeah agreed for the most part. The first two things aren anything that hasnt been done before and done fairly well. Its that last thing that Marvel did really clunkily in AOU. I've seen it twice and will probably watch it a few more times but I remember even on first viewing it felt like there were parts that were just missing.
Then Whedon revealed that there was something like 45min cut out of the movie I was like "AH. So that's what happened."
Dont get me wrong I dont think it's a bad movie. You walk into something like AOU and expect spectacle and not you know REMAINS OF THE DAY or even LONE STAR. But it felt like an advertisement for upcoming movies and an incomplete advertisement at that. There was a much better way to get the exposition on the Infinity Stones to us, the viewer, rather than through a last minute Thor data dump.
This new characterization of Ultron bothered me greatly. The change in characterizations for many of the Marvel characters havent bothered me all that much but the Villians have been pretty much who they have been in the comics (with a few exceptions of course, Looks over at IRON MAN 3...). Ultron is a BIG BAD. You're supposed to be AFRAID when Ultron shows up. ULTRON, KANG/IMMORTUS and THANOS (with special mention of Michael Korvac) are THE GUYS. Or at least that's what I explained to my 13y old son. He thought his old man was a kook until I let him read the Ultron Unlimited story arc from Busiek & Perez's run on THE AVENGERS.
Then he was like: "Dad, he killed an entire country then raised the people as an undead cyborg army. THAT'S CRAZY!! The movie Ultron was WEAK compared to the comics ULTRON."
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Yeah...when I critique any Marvel movie (produced so far at least), I critique movies I still enjoyed. So while I found some faults with Antman or Age of Ultron, it's not along the lines of "THIS MOVIE SUCKED!!!". I really like them, but I like these other Marvel movies better.
I think the Blue Ray of Age of Ultron is going to be awesome, and will probably fix my issues with the movie.
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Reposting some continuity questions from earlier with the hope that now more people watched the movie and might be able to answer them:
1) When they blow up that building with their explosives, the building sort of collapses into a sphere and disappears. This made me think of those bombs Howard Stark made in Agent Carter. Am I correct about this? Would be kind of cool of I am. Also, it was nice seeing Peggy in that first scene.
2) The recruitment of Antman into the Avengers is interesting in regards to the upcoming Civil War. Going by the second post credit scene, it was done in secret by the Falco, who didn't even tell Captain America, who when he heard about it then decided not to tell Ironman. This feeling of paranoia and cloak-and-dagger is well done. What are these "Accords" they were mentioning? Are they form the comics civil war or something new?
3) Pym said early in the movie that he can no longer use the Antman suit. Why is that? It was never explained.
4) So is the Wasp going to be in Civil War too? That will make for three different types of insects (ant, wasp, spider) in that war. Weird.
I already got an answer that made sense to question 1, but maybe other people interpreted that differently.
I think I'd see Ben Affleck's Daredevil over Age of Ultron... it's just that bad as far as I'm concerned.
Reposting some continuity questions from earlier with the hope that now more people watched the movie and might be able to answer them:
** spoiler omitted **
I already got an answer that made sense to question 1, but maybe other people interpreted that differently.
2) Apparently that scene was a last minute addition (the original closing after credit scene was suppose to be some sort of comedic bit with Scott Lange. That scene was shot for Civil War, and I assume actually comes from a scene well within the movie. So I assume the accords stuff will be explained. (Apparently Bucky's robot arm is locked into some sort of vice that they need help removing, to free him?)
3) I am guessing it relates to how the earlier versions of the suite didn't insulate the mind from the effect of the Pym particles? Also one of the avengers animated movies had Pym develop heart problems from prolonged use of the suite has giant man
I don't know the comics though well enough to provide a reason, although I would guess the movie leans toward the first hypothesis.
4) Fiege said the earliest we might see Wasp is Antman 2 (assuming that happens?) or MAYBE Infinity Wars. So no wasp in Civil War
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My thoughts on the spoilers:
1) That was my first thought. In my mind fiction, Pym and Howard's work in the (presumably) 70s with shield are probably what led to the Pym Particle. All that Stark Tech from certified Mad Scientist Howard is pretty much Shield property via Agent Carter anyway. Pym adapted the milk truck explosives to go sub atomic instead of just implosion by addition of Pym Particles.
2) I don't think Falcon recruited Lang into Avengers as much as got him on the up and up's radar. Pretty sure that until the Cap side clearly aligns anti Stark that Pym wouldn't condone the usage of AM for the Avengers anyhow. Off the books work for Cap and Falcon maybe, but not straight up Avenger.
3) Probably a cut scene explaining health issues or maybe even just the temptation would be too great to go quantum to find his wife. The same WTF question lingered with me when Hope went all Pheonix with the ant hearing aid during Scott's training. How come she seemed to zone and the ants go Insano?
4) I don't think Wasp will be in civil war, maybe not even more than a Hope cameo during the {whatever cap needs lang for} sales pitch scene that is presumably setup by the 2nd stinger.
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I wonder if the uncut version of the movie has some further explanations about the psychological effects of shrinking without the aid of that headgear. That could explain better why Pym can no longer wear the suit, and also why the Wasp was so convinced that Yellowjacket was being influenced by something that caused him to go all supvervillain. As it is, the disabled-Pym and evil-Yellowjacket plot threads are both left hanging a bit.
Antman 2? Is that Marvel people talking about post-phase-3 stuff? Because IIRC there is no Antman 2 announced in the batch of phase 3 stuff we've seen. I assumed that the "The Antman will return" thing from the end of the movie was referring to his appearances in Civil War and The Avengers...
no...Antman 2 remains up in the air. Even though Antman opened #1 in box office in the US, it apparently had the second worse box office opening of any Marvel Movie (Just above Incredible Hulk).
SOOOOO...way two early to say if Antman 2 will get a sequel. I imagine that will depend a lot on how well the next round of newer characters do (Dr. Strange, Cap Marvel, Black Panther). However at the very least it was something being thought about prior to the film release.