Hey, now, let's stay civil. I think we owe these hackers the benefit of the doubt. If they say they're not Korean, well, it's only fair that we take them at their word.
That said, I hope the Grand Old Party is proud of all the trouble it's caused.
Hey, now, let's stay civil. I think we owe these hackers the benefit of the doubt. If they say they're not Korean, well, it's only fair that we take them at their word.
Frankly being 'Korean' never really sounded right by me. Korea has made a habit of puffing out their chest and standing in front of cameras talking about tough they are...
Sneaking around in cyberspace and anonymously blackmailing CEOs doesnt' really feel like their style.
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Yeah not really believing the North Korea did it part myself. I mean for one thing I cant believe they would have the tech or anyone with the skills to do it.
North Korea does have access to computing equipment. Just because the population at large is living in a subsistence economy, doesn't mean the government doesn't have access to those resources.
I dunno...this sounds EXACTLY like North Korea to me.
Guardians of Peace vs. Anonymous now. Dawn of the Internet Wars.
Having looked at the Wikipedia page, Death of a President doesn't seem quite as meanspirited with the president himself. It looks more like anti-Cheney stuff than anything. DoaP appears to have been hateful and manipulative, but it's not treating the death of a president as a joke. I can't tell if that makes it better or worse, though.
Treating something as a joke isn't inherently bad though.
We haven't seen "The Interview", so we're only going by second and third hand accounts of what the movie is like.
Something else to consider, it could be making fun of the CIA just as much. Their history with failed assassinations on the leaders of foreign countries 80 miles off the coast of Florida is often a target of jokes.
Freedom of speech is a pretty important concept for a free society. Letting a dictatorship from another country compel censorship here is not a good idea. It doesn't mean we should applaud Rogen and Franco for making the movie (I've heard it's not very good), but they should have the right to make it and Sony should be free to distribute it if they choose without fear of violence. Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences for that speech, but outright bullying through illegal means shouldn't be tolerated.
Honestly, I'm really not sure if North Korea is involved in this. Why go ballistic over a almost certainly awful comedy based entirely on 'them Asians are funny' while ignoring movies like the Red Dawn remake, which portrays them as not only a militaristic and evil nation (not inaccurate...) but also incapable of beating High School students led by Thor? Or, of course, why didn't they go for Team America?
From what I've read, some of the people at Sony, including at least some of the crew for the interview, don't believe it was North Korea. From what I also understand, Sony also recieved a threatening e-mail warning of the attack...which didn't demand the Interview be pulled. They wanted money.
Again, this is only my own understanding, but the whole logic behind this is North Korea seems to be two fold - Sony was making a movie that insulted North Korea, but it's hardly the first movie to do that. And the way the hack was carried out was similar to a technique used against South Korean businesses last year that was much more likely to be North Korea, but that's not really hard proof.
Apparently a lot of the stuff that has happened doesn't follow North Korea's usual practice with this sorta thing, such as abusing the twitter accounts and warning of the attack, but in fairness not using your own MO is a time honoured way to convince people you didn't do it.
Not that North Korea isn't an evil, hellish government. But can we at least hate them for the murder and slavery of there own people, rather than possibly maybe getting a probably crappy and likely vaguely racist comedy cancelled?
Throwing temper tantrums is old hat for NK. Unfortunately, they are very willing to shell SK if any real move is made against them and they have rockets that can reach Japan. So while yes, we can grind them into the dirt a whole lot of our allies will suffer for it.
China as well does not want NK occupied by any America friendly forces even though they don't like NK any more than we do.
Honestly, I'm really not sure if North Korea is involved in this. Why go ballistic over a almost certainly awful comedy based entirely on 'them Asians are funny' while ignoring movies like the Red Dawn remake, which portrays them as not only a militaristic and evil nation (not inaccurate...) but also incapable of beating High School students led by Thor? Or, of course, why didn't they go for Team America?
Part of that is probably because Red Dawn didn't push the North Korea angle super hard in the trailers. Also, given that NK would be utterly annihilated if it actually tried to invade the US, they may have actually appreciated being portrayed as a competent threat.
North koreas internet ( both computers) mysteriously shut down today.
The whitehouse was seen whistling innocently and smiling.
Its halfway around the world, but something about the cultural differences I observed in mauritania is oddly relevant here. People in countries where the government controls the message and the media, ALL of it, believe that anything that gets on the web or into movies was either done by the government or approved by it. I regretted not having a camera so i could show them how easy it was.
They simply do not believe that something like this could happen without the government looking in on them and giving it the go ahead.
I stand by my earlier statement.
I had never heard of DoaP until I bothered to do a search for movies about assassinating the US president. While some people did comment on it, it received far less attention than say, The Interview.
Several outlets are reporting that the Interview will now be released on Christmas day once more - and that Sony is attempting to get it on a streaming service as well.
Drat. Now i need to go see it on christmas.
Drat. Now i need to go see it on christmas.
If you don't, the communists win.
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Drat. Now i need to go see it on christmas.If you don't, the communists win.
I really don't care about communism but I absolutely detest totalitarianism.
Rented the movie on youtube. I was kinda meh about it. If you do something like this you need to cross the line twice by going so far you come around the other side of the planet, not zig zagging in between comic and brutally serious back and forth.
Just streamed it on Xbox Live. It was what you'd expect. It had its moments where I was entertained. And it was 6 dollars. Way better than going to a theater for it.