Theater release of "Interview" canceled after Hacker Threats.


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North Korea saves America from the horror of another Seth Rogan movie


They should screen it at the White House to send a message (even if the movie isn't any good) and invite all the world leaders to it.

Where are Dingo and his petitions when you need them?


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I'm pretty disappointed to be honest. I was really looking forward to this, since I'm a big fan of James Franco, and Seth Rogen is slowly starting to grow on me (I should probably see a doctor about that).

What really irritates me about this is that it means the bastards behind this crap won. I get that Sony, and the cinemas, are concerned about safety, and I understand, but I hate that it means they had to let the a-holes win.

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Tinkergoth wrote:
I'm pretty disappointed to be honest. I was really looking forward to this, since I'm a big fan of James Franco, and Seth Rogen is slowly starting to grow on me (I should probably see a doctor about that).

I'm not. This is the end , I believe it was called, was one of the worst movies I have seen. I like Franco usually, and Rogen sometimes, but that movie convinced me to not bother anymore of their pairings until cable; if at all.

Tinkergoth wrote:


What really irritates me about this is that it means the bastards behind this crap won. I get that Sony, and the cinemas, are concerned about safety, and I understand, but I hate that it means they had to let the a-holes win.

Sometimes its about more than winning. Not sure all the trouble over a trivial comedic movie is worth the fallout, and it seems Sony and Co. agree.


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If you don't see it now, then the terrorists win.

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Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
If you don't see it now, then the terrorists win.

With the theatrical release canceled, seeing it is not an option until it either gets pirated, or goes to DVD.


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Pan wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
I'm pretty disappointed to be honest. I was really looking forward to this, since I'm a big fan of James Franco, and Seth Rogen is slowly starting to grow on me (I should probably see a doctor about that).

I'm not. This is the end , I believe it was called, was one of the worst movies I have seen. I like Franco usually, and Rogen sometimes, but that movie convinced me to not bother anymore of their pairings until cable; if at all.

Tinkergoth wrote:


What really irritates me about this is that it means the bastards behind this crap won. I get that Sony, and the cinemas, are concerned about safety, and I understand, but I hate that it means they had to let the a-holes win.
Sometimes its about more than winning. Not sure all the trouble over a trivial comedic movie is worth the fallout, and it seems Sony and Co. agree.

I haven't seen This Is The End. The trailer for it didn't interest me that much. The trailer for this on the other hand had me really excited about it.

And yeah, I get that it's not always about winning, and they had to make a call, but that doesn't stop it from being a disappointing result. It shows the people behind this that their tactics are viable, which makes it more likely to occur in the future if other things offend them. That in itself is something I'd find concerning even if I wasn't interested in the film.


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We should air drop ipads preloaded with this and team america world police into north korea.


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Hans Brix would never stand for it.


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The theaters released thoughts (I mentioned it in another thread that got moved to the movies) that they decided not to show it due to financial ramifications.

They have been accused in cinema shootings and other items of not providing enough protection to the viewers and hence got sued.

Something of this scale, with forewarning (while the others did not have any forewarning), even if it's not connected to the hackers, but something happened....they'd be sued out the wazoo...possibly going bankrupt by it if the scale of prior incidents are any indication.

So...it's more a thing that legally they are afraid of what their own audiences will do (Americans) if something DID happen rather than the probability that the hackers could actually do something.

Still, a lot of disappointment from many people. I think the free press Sony has gotten could drive a very mediocre movie (with a low income most likely) to one of the blockbusters of the year if they let it!

Why!

Well, if the commentary from some people are to be believed, There are so many Americans that just want to show spite towards the hackers...to say that americans won't be told what to do or dictated to by a foreign hacking group...it's profits would probably shoot up!

Of course, with Sony pulling the picture, and theater chains refusing to show it...that's officially impossible now.

Hollywood is beginning to have some of it's members show a tad disappointment to sarcasm to anger over this in regards to Sony.

I think that this move could hurt Sony pictures more than the HACK to tell the truth (what actor wants to try a film with Sony when they know Sony would capitulate to anyone who threatens it now?)...but...we'll see. I'm no Hollywood mogul so my guesses are like pulling at the slot machines...more than likely not going to be accurate predictions...or waaay off.


LazarX wrote:
With the theatrical release canceled, seeing it is not an option until it either gets pirated, or goes to DVD.

Or streaming on Netflix, Amazon, iTunes, whatever.


At least we still have Penguins of Madagascar, guys. It's probably a better comedy anyways.

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Damon Griffin wrote:
LazarX wrote:
With the theatrical release canceled, seeing it is not an option until it either gets pirated, or goes to DVD.
Or streaming on Netflix, Amazon, iTunes, whatever.

Actually, there is some discussion that streaming services may not want to carry it due to risk of cyber attacks, seeing as GoP seems to be at least somewhat competent at it.


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I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.


Pan wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
I'm pretty disappointed to be honest. I was really looking forward to this, since I'm a big fan of James Franco, and Seth Rogen is slowly starting to grow on me (I should probably see a doctor about that).

I'm not. This is the end , I believe it was called, was one of the worst movies I have seen. I like Franco usually, and Rogen sometimes, but that movie convinced me to not bother anymore of their pairings until cable; if at all.

Tinkergoth wrote:


What really irritates me about this is that it means the bastards behind this crap won. I get that Sony, and the cinemas, are concerned about safety, and I understand, but I hate that it means they had to let the a-holes win.
Sometimes its about more than winning. Not sure all the trouble over a trivial comedic movie is worth the fallout, and it seems Sony and Co. agree.

This is the End is one of my favorite disaster movies ever.

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Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

Couldn't care less. It's a comedy, fiction, and I believe in the freedom of speech.

And as Americans, we don't have a love for our great and benevolent leader greater than life itself.

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Imbicatus wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

Couldn't care less. It's a comedy, fiction, and I believe in the freedom of speech.

And as Americans, we don't have a love for our great and benevolent leader greater than life itself.

And we kick their asses out of power after 4 or 8 years, as well.


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And sure enough, the precedent has been set.

Turns out some studios don't even need to have threats made against them to start pulling movies.

Plans for North Korea Movie Starring Steve Carell Scrapped - Huffington Post

As Carell said on twitter, it's a sad day for creative expression.

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I really wanted to see this. I think this seemed like ton of a fun. It is sad to see creativity be crushed like that. I'm still pissed about this, I so rarely get excited about comedies.

I think this might also lead to Sony selling Spider-Man to Marvel Studios, possibly.


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I think the theaters are less concerned about an actual attack (which would be phenomenally stupid for North Korea, because it would demand a military response) and more concerned with people avoiding the theater for fear of such an attack, and sinking sales for ALL the movies currently released. Especially since my understanding is that Christmas is a pretty good day for ticket sales.

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Rosgakori wrote:
I think this might also lead to Sony selling Spider-Man to Marvel Studios, possibly.

I think it's amusing how, in the past couple of weeks, everyone thinks that Sony is going to sell their license to print money to Disney.

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Caineach wrote:
Pan wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
I'm pretty disappointed to be honest. I was really looking forward to this, since I'm a big fan of James Franco, and Seth Rogen is slowly starting to grow on me (I should probably see a doctor about that).

I'm not. This is the end , I believe it was called, was one of the worst movies I have seen. I like Franco usually, and Rogen sometimes, but that movie convinced me to not bother anymore of their pairings until cable; if at all.

Tinkergoth wrote:


What really irritates me about this is that it means the bastards behind this crap won. I get that Sony, and the cinemas, are concerned about safety, and I understand, but I hate that it means they had to let the a-holes win.
Sometimes its about more than winning. Not sure all the trouble over a trivial comedic movie is worth the fallout, and it seems Sony and Co. agree.
This is the End is one of my favorite disaster movies ever.

Well there is no accounting for taste. Glad you enjoy it.

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Kthulhu wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
I think this might also lead to Sony selling Spider-Man to Marvel Studios, possibly.
I think it's amusing how, in the past couple of weeks, everyone thinks that Sony is going to sell their license to print money to Disney.

:P That is true as well.


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Tinkergoth wrote:
As Carell said on twitter, it's a sad day for creative expression.

This right here - spot on.

Whether you find the movie to be terrible or funny; whether there's a matter of safety involved, you have essentially allowed one of the most repressive, human-rights abusive regimes on the planet dictate what's acceptable to a major corporation and countries from a computer terminal.

When a Danish cartoonist made a slight parody of Mohammed, and several Muslim countries/organizations lost their minds and made threats, everyone was standing up for the "rights of the artist." But North Korea makes vague threats based on the work of hackers over a movie and it's OK to just be like "meh, I don't even like Seth Rogen." That's missing the point, I think.


Alex Martin wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
As Carell said on twitter, it's a sad day for creative expression.

This right here - spot on.

Whether you find the movie to be terrible or funny; whether there's a matter of safety involved, you have essentially allowed one of the most repressive, human-rights abusive regimes on the planet dictate what's acceptable to a major corporation and countries from a computer terminal.

When a Danish cartoonist made a slight parody of Mohammed, and several Muslim countries/organizations lost their minds and made threats, everyone was standing up for the "rights of the artist." But North Korea makes vague threats based on the work of hackers over a movie and it's OK to just be like "meh, I don't even like Seth Rogen." That's missing the point, I think.

Just great to see America letting terrorist regimes push us around and dupe us. Again. Great precedence we're setting.


lorenlord wrote:
Alex Martin wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
As Carell said on twitter, it's a sad day for creative expression.

This right here - spot on.

Whether you find the movie to be terrible or funny; whether there's a matter of safety involved, you have essentially allowed one of the most repressive, human-rights abusive regimes on the planet dictate what's acceptable to a major corporation and countries from a computer terminal.

When a Danish cartoonist made a slight parody of Mohammed, and several Muslim countries/organizations lost their minds and made threats, everyone was standing up for the "rights of the artist." But North Korea makes vague threats based on the work of hackers over a movie and it's OK to just be like "meh, I don't even like Seth Rogen." That's missing the point, I think.

Just great to see America letting terrorist regimes push us around and dupe us. Again. Great precedence we're setting.

So what should "America" do? Should Congress pass a law requiring Sony and all the theaters to show "The Interview"?

"America" is doing nothing here. Sony is a Japanese company and they pulled the movie. The theater chains may be US companies, but they're not "America".


So... hackers threaten. What else is new? Why would anyone even blink at that threat? It's perpetual. They're going to hack us anyway. That's what they do, constantly.

Pathetic.

Maybe this will shed some light on the fact that we don't take internet security or cyberterrorism seriously.


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Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

A movie about the assassination of a current president? Who would do that!. It doesn't fit your criteria exactly since in this case the movie is not a comedy. Instead it is used as an excuse to attack veterans, the vice president, and US foreign policy - but it's pretty close.

Personally I thought it was in pretty poor taste, but disliking something does not excuse threats of violence.


thejeff wrote:
lorenlord wrote:
Alex Martin wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
As Carell said on twitter, it's a sad day for creative expression.

This right here - spot on.

Whether you find the movie to be terrible or funny; whether there's a matter of safety involved, you have essentially allowed one of the most repressive, human-rights abusive regimes on the planet dictate what's acceptable to a major corporation and countries from a computer terminal.

When a Danish cartoonist made a slight parody of Mohammed, and several Muslim countries/organizations lost their minds and made threats, everyone was standing up for the "rights of the artist." But North Korea makes vague threats based on the work of hackers over a movie and it's OK to just be like "meh, I don't even like Seth Rogen." That's missing the point, I think.

Just great to see America letting terrorist regimes push us around and dupe us. Again. Great precedence we're setting.

So what should "America" do? Should Congress pass a law requiring Sony and all the theaters to show "The Interview"?

"America" is doing nothing here. Sony is a Japanese company and they pulled the movie. The theater chains may be US companies, but they're not "America".

I dont know, maybe show some guts, tell them "screw you" and show 'Team America' like was planned? But then again, yet another gutless movie (Paramount) company caved. it's a sad precedence. They alredy cancelled one for Steve Carrell's new movies as well because of this. So I guess if your country has in issue with a movie, just say you'll bomb every theater and they'll cave. Awesome.

Scarab Sages

It's hardly the first time a media company caved. Try to watch Super Best Friends on southparkstudios.com.


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Kthulhu wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
I think this might also lead to Sony selling Spider-Man to Marvel Studios, possibly.
I think it's amusing how, in the past couple of weeks, everyone thinks that Sony is going to sell their license to print money to Disney.

Nah...the rights are never going back, not unless Sony films itself dissolves. But the deal that was being hatched out would have given Marvel control of the Spiderman character in exchanged for Sony keeping some percentage of the profit. Given the success of Marvel films to make a lot of money as well as being economical in their production, that arrangement might actually make more money in the long run for Sony

So not so much as "giving back" as it is renting out


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lorenlord wrote:
thejeff wrote:
lorenlord wrote:
Alex Martin wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
As Carell said on twitter, it's a sad day for creative expression.

This right here - spot on.

Whether you find the movie to be terrible or funny; whether there's a matter of safety involved, you have essentially allowed one of the most repressive, human-rights abusive regimes on the planet dictate what's acceptable to a major corporation and countries from a computer terminal.

When a Danish cartoonist made a slight parody of Mohammed, and several Muslim countries/organizations lost their minds and made threats, everyone was standing up for the "rights of the artist." But North Korea makes vague threats based on the work of hackers over a movie and it's OK to just be like "meh, I don't even like Seth Rogen." That's missing the point, I think.

Just great to see America letting terrorist regimes push us around and dupe us. Again. Great precedence we're setting.

So what should "America" do? Should Congress pass a law requiring Sony and all the theaters to show "The Interview"?

"America" is doing nothing here. Sony is a Japanese company and they pulled the movie. The theater chains may be US companies, but they're not "America".

I dont know, maybe show some guts, tell them "screw you" and show 'Team America' like was planned? But then again, yet another gutless movie (Paramount) company caved. it's a sad precedence. They alredy cancelled one for Steve Carrell's new movies as well because of this. So I guess if your country has in issue with a movie, just say you'll bomb every theater and they'll cave. Awesome.

Again, that's not "America".

If you want to complain that giant multinational corporations won't take stands on principle if it's likely to cost them money, go for it.
But no one's going to be surprised.

Scarab Sages

If you really want to protest, boycott any theater that refused to show the film before sony pictures cancelled the release, and boycott Sony. Vote with your wallet, it's the only thing that matters to them.


Obama on Sony


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Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

I dont know seeing that the GOP hates the current President they probably wouldn't mind seeing him dead.

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ShinHakkaider wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.
I dont know seeing that the GOP hates the current President they probably wouldn't mind seeing him dead.

And how exactly does this differ from the DNP during the Bush administration?


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ShinHakkaider wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.
I dont know seeing that the GOP hates the current President they probably wouldn't mind seeing him dead.

Again, let me leave this here..

And as someone who identifies as a Republican (and who frequently associates with others who identify similarly) I'd be pretty pissed off at the prospect. Even if you don't like a given president or agree with their policies you should respect the office (and likely the individual as well, though I'll give others more leeway in that regard).


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ShinHakkaider wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.
I dont know seeing that the GOP hates the current President they probably wouldn't mind seeing him dead.

Again, let me leave this here..

And as someone who identifies as a Republican (and who frequently associates with others who identify similarly) I'd be pretty pissed off at the prospect. Even if you don't like a given president or agree with their policies you should respect the office (and likely the individual as well, though I'll give others more leeway in that regard).

Hard to really compare the two. Death of a President was never a wide release blockbuster... that article says 14 days in at most 143 theaters and was still widely criticized...

The fact that I never heard of that movie before today REALLY says a lot...

Interview should never have been green-lit in the first place. This is just surprisingly bad taste from people who have made fortunes on bad taste.

Korean/American relations border on war at any given moment... to actively promote a movie mocking their standing leader and then murdering him?? That's just a slap in the face.

To have the PRESIDENT come out in support of this movie is a borderline challenge of war... with a nation experiment with nuclear weapons...

To think that all this tension was over some stupid Seth Rogan comedy?!? It blows my mind...

Speaking as someone who will be in a theatre that weekend, probably watching Hobbit, Exodus, or Into the Woods.... I would like to THANK the theaters for not putting people at risk (however small) over a movie as pointless at that.

There may have been some movies to stand their ground on. Something like Saving Private Ryan... or a documentary or some historically significant show... but Interview?!? That was barely more then a Direct-to-DVD concept to begin with...


...see?


Check out the IMDB for The Interview. Almost 12000 people want this movie to happen.


Amazing Red wrote:

Check out the IMDB for The Interview. Almost 12000 people want this movie to happen.

NOW....

I would like to see what that number was BEFORE the scandal. Now people want to stick it to North Korea regardless of what the movie quality is.

Frankly WHEN (not if) they release this thing, it will be the best publicity they could have imagined.

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Not Korean? Well, the next most probable nationality is, unfortunately, American. I have no problem seeing Americans gaining from hitting a Japanese company hard, casting blame on North Korea, and putting in another nail in the coffin of freedom of expression.


Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

Death of a President

I don't remember it even getting any press here.

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Irontruth wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

Death of a President

I don't remember it even getting any press here.

Hillary Clinton called it despicable.

Shadow Lodge

yellowdingo wrote:
Irontruth wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

Death of a President

I don't remember it even getting any press here.

Hillary Clinton called it despicable.

I'd be willing to wager that the majority of MSNBC employees have masturbated to the movie.

:P

Liberty's Edge

Meh, sometimes the shadowrunners win.


Having looked at the Wikipedia page, Death of a President doesn't seem quite as meanspirited with the president himself. It looks more like anti-Cheney stuff than anything. DoaP appears to have been hateful and manipulative, but it's not treating the death of a president as a joke. I can't tell if that makes it better or worse, though.


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Sissyl wrote:
Not Korean? Well, the next most probable nationality is, unfortunately, American. I have no problem seeing Americans gaining from hitting a Japanese company hard, casting blame on North Korea, and putting in another nail in the coffin of freedom of expression.

Or you know...the GoP are lying, and they are in fact are Korean.

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