The NPC |
Speaking of which. Can one of you give me the quick run down on how make sure its properly connected?
My dragon age keep is connected to my origin account and both my origin and xbox use the same e-mail. My keep says one linked persona and that it is my computer.
I described this the fellow at Game stop and he said everything should be fine, but does everything sound like it should?
Freehold DM |
What did it do?
fried it. ea forums were rude and unhelpful to boot. not playing this game or any other dragon age game, ever.
Rynjin |
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Hama wrote:fried it. ea forums were rude and unhelpful to boot. not playing this game or any other dragon age game, ever.What did it do?
Looks pretty helpful to me. Telling you, correctly, "there's no way the game did that to your hard drive" tells you you're barking up the wrong tree, and should look for other solutions.
You're both blaming a critical hardware malfunction on a piece of software you happened to be using at the time, and blaming a company for their community's response.
That's like a double whammy of wrong.
This makes about as much sense as you going on the Microsoft forums and posting "I saved a Word document and then my computer caught fire! Has anybody else had this problem with Word?" and then getting pissed when people inform that no, it was not a problem with Word that caused your computer to spontaneously combust.
The Xbox 360 is prone to errors like this. That's why the error code list is a billion miles long and when you try to Google search solutions for problems you end up with a Google page with a minimum of thousands of positive results.
archmagi1 |
I loved da2. Anders going jihad on the chantry and my realization as a player that my Hawke had been helping him plot for it all game was one of the most left field and profound moments I've had as a gamer. The mechanics and resource reuse were problems yes but the game will always stick with me for that significant moment.
Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert |
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Whatever. Hama asked what happened and I told him. Your opinion is just that.
That's not opinion, it's fact. I have never seen a video game do that to an Xbox, but Xbox is very well known for that exactly problem. So yes, you are blaming the wrong company. Microsoft is the one with shoddy design.
GreyWolfLord |
Hmm, Freehold. I'd have to know more information about what happened. Sorry they didn't help you on those forums.
How full was your HD when you installed it?
Did you have any delays prior to that?
What happened when you tried to reformat it...did it work.
My guess is that it would not?
I agree, the game probably did your HD in, but probably not in the way you think.
From what you stated, if I had to make a guess, your HD was already failing to a degree. You should have seen something that indicated a problem such as slower access on startup, slower startup, pauses in games or pauses on it, etc.
Now, when that is happening, anything that agitates the failing part can cause it to fail.
I suspect that you had part of the game installed (If I recall, with the disk you have a LOT of the expansions parts that you actually have to install to disk), and that would have meant a lot of the moving parts moving constantly for a while. That's bad for a failing hard drive, and probably at that point, one of the failing parts got much weaker.
After that it wasn't going to last much longer, and when it failed, it failed hard.
At least, without more information, and with my limited knowledge of hard drives (killed enough of them myself, unfortunately), that would be my guess.
The installation was probably too intense for the HD to handle. However, I'd think there was something on the harddrive that was probably starting to fail already, the installation simply hastened it.
Dal Selpher |
Apparently, I pre-ordered this game back in May (and have naught but the foggiest of memories to support this). Everything I've seen in the last 2 months has looked really promising, so I was intending to buy it.
I was quite pleased to sign into Origin on Saturday and see that not only was the game already purchased, but that it was available to preload. Spent a good bit of time early Sunday afternoon fiddling around with the Keep and rebuilding my DA:O characters into two separate worldstates.
I'll be using the worldstate with my dwarven commoner rogue first (never romanced anyone, made the ultimate sacrifice in killing the archdemon, became a Paragon - drawing all the Casteless into a Caste of their own). I am WAAAAY too intrigued by Morrigan's dark ritual though to leave it at that, so my second warden (elf mage, father of an old god baby) will HAVE to be the worldstate for my second playthrough.
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@Freehold: that harddrive loss SUUUUUUCKS. Sorry it wrecked your machine, dude =( =( =(
GreyWolfLord |
Not immediately. I need to replace my gaming PC first. Just as well. After Mass Effect 3, I'm waiting to see the community response before buying any Bioware games.
AFTER DA2 and ME3's ending...well...I understand the hesitance. At that point I decided I'd give them ONE last chance...and this one is it.
If this one sucks, well, I may be done with Bio at that point...but I enjoyed Origins enough, and hope they got enough backlash against the two others I listed (developed around the same time, so there's some understanding why fully changing ME3 in regards to DA2 wasn't done) that they did this new one differently.
We'll see, but I'm hopeful enough I'll jump heads in.
Werthead |
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You can continue to avoid Dragon Age games for no good reason, but you're hurting no one but yourself.
Whilst I agree that it's highly improbable* that DA specifically caused the hard drive to explode, I think this response is overstating things a bit. It's not exactly 'hurting' anyone not to play DRAGON AGE. It's hardly the pinnacle of RPG design and in fact is probably the most overrated modern gaming franchise around.
The first game was above average, fun but cheesy and lacking either storytelling coherence or decent gameplay mechanics (the combat, which for some reason is lauded in some quarters, can go and die in a fire for its hideousness). The characters were fairly weak by BioWare standards and it used almost exactly the same storytelling structure every single BioWare game since BG2 used (only nowhere near as well), making the thing diabolically predictable. The end of game battle was underwhelming to the point of being anticlimactic and BioWare were so desperate to make the game 'long' that they poured in every bit of padding they could think of, resulting in a 50+ hour game that was at least 50% tedious fetch quests and even more tedious pointless combat. The worldbuilding was pretty good, but buried in codexes rather than displayed on screen (if you don't read the codexes and miss Sten, you have zero clue as to what the hell the qunari are which is unforgivably bad storytelling given their importance to the world). The game also did the bizarre thing of giving you a large number of characters to play with, but then only making two of them (Morrigan and Alistair) really important to the plot, making the narrative feel weirdly unbalanced if you played with anyone else.
DRAGON AGE II, on the other hand, had even worse combat, a tiny number of actual gameplay areas that were over-used to death and some story turns that made no sense. However, it had much more interesting characters (even if most of them were total twonks) and it did the worldbuilding a hell of a lot better, which is weird given how it's focused in one city. For a badly rushed, under-funded quickie project designed to help alleviate the crippling costs of the first game, DA2 was reasonably decent. But still hardly a top-tier roleplaying game.
I'll get DA3 eventually and probably enjoy it. But certainly not until I've finished D:OS and WASTELAND 2, and the price drops to something reasonable (£50, EA? I think not).
* Although it is possible for software to affect hardware: STARCRAFT 2 infamously caused certain graphics cards to overheat on release until Blizzard rushed out an emergency fix.
Rynjin |
Whilst I agree that it's highly improbable* that DA specifically caused the hard drive to explode, I think this response is overstating things a bit. It's not exactly 'hurting' anyone not to play DRAGON AGE. It's hardly the pinnacle of RPG design and in fact is probably the most overrated modern gaming franchise around.The first game was above average, fun but cheesy and lacking either storytelling coherence or decent gameplay mechanics (the combat, which for some reason is lauded in some quarters, can go and die in a fire for its hideousness).
You serious? The combat was great. It was a semi-tactical RPG where the fights were tough (even on Easy they could get challenging) and the boss battles were f+&%ing brutal. It was easy to control and swap between characters to coordinate attacks, and attacking and using Spells/Talents was fluid too.
Maybe you just don't like that style of combat? It was far better executed than the similar style in KoToR.
The characters were fairly weak by BioWare standards and it used almost exactly the same storytelling structure every single BioWare game since BG2 used (only nowhere near as well), making the thing diabolically predictable. The end of game battle was underwhelming to the point of being anticlimactic and BioWare were so desperate to make the game 'long' that they poured in every bit of padding they could think of, resulting in a 50+ hour game that was at least 50% tedious fetch quests and even more tedious pointless combat.
Predictable? A bit, but most fantasy stories are at this point.
"Padded and tedious"? Definitely not. Though I can see why you would think so if you didn't like the combat.
The worldbuilding was pretty good, but buried in codexes rather than displayed on screen (if you don't read the codexes and miss Sten, you have zero clue as to what the hell the qunari are which is unforgivably bad storytelling given their importance to the world).
"Unforgivably bad storytelling"? Because you decided to bypass one of the recruitable party members?
Rule 1 of RPGs: Talk to everyone.
Pretty much everyone in town mentions the Qunari locked up in the cage. One of the people you HAVE TO TALK TO to advance the plot mentions the Qunari.
If at that point you choose not to follow up on it, and your curiosity isn't even piqued by the use of this unfamiliar word...that's your problem, not the game's.
The rest I can sorta agree with.
Werthead |
You serious? The combat was great. It was a semi-tactical RPG where the fights were tough (even on Easy they could get challenging) and the boss battles were f++@ing brutal. It was easy to control and swap between characters to coordinate attacks, and attacking and using Spells/Talents was fluid too.
They were mainly brutal because the game's healing mechanics were seriously nerfed, which made no sense given the high-magic setting. However, the biggest problem was the irrelevance of placement. Fighting a horde of enemies in a narrow corridor and want to form a chokepoint with your warriors whilst archers and mages attack from behind? Tough. The enemy will simply push past your soldiers or, in some cases, clip past them. You can't form lines and hold them because the game engine won't let you. That's just ridiculously stupid, especially as older BioWare games didn't have that problem. When a 2009 RPG has less interesting, less sophisticated and less tactical combat than BALDUR'S GATE II, released a decade earlier, there's a big problem somewhere.
At least they don't teleport right into your midst without any warning as in DA2. That was even more annoying.
CapeCodRPGer |
I see on the Xbone and PS4 version of DA:I, you can zoom back more in combat for a tactical view like on the PC version of DA:O. That is a great improvement IMO. I played DA:O on PS3 and PC. Combat was better on PC because you could have a larger field of view.
I have no idea how DA2 was, i never played it. But I heard it was more action RPG then the first game, and the big gripe people had was it reused alot of the same areas.
Rynjin |
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Ehhh, that's not quite the same thing.
That's sort of the software's fault, but actually causing a hardware failure (since it caused the graphics card to overheat from bombarding it with too many things at once). It's more a result of your hardware not being able to handle what the software is throwing at it than "software breaking your hardware".
There's a big difference between "This program caused my hardware to overheat because it put too much stress on it" and "Playing this game caused my hard drive to break".
The first is between two related components, the second is entirely (or mostly) unrelated things.
That's the difference between running in the heat giving you a heat stroke, and you having a heart attack while eating a piece of bacon.
Certainly, maybe the bacon grease somehow triggered your heart attack...but it wouldn't have happened if your heart was healthy to start with.
The hard drive problem you had would have happened eventually anyway, because it was a hardware fault. It just happened to be DA:O:A that triggered the issue. It could just as easily have been Halo 3, or Crackdown, or any number of other games you had recently installed to your HD.
Aranna |
* Although it is possible for software to affect hardware: STARCRAFT 2 infamously caused certain graphics cards to overheat on release until Blizzard rushed out an emergency fix.
If this were the case with Dragon Age a quick check of the community would have confirmed it. No, Dragon Age was a stable game without any hardware issues. Hard disks don't last forever. Freehold DM's disk just picked Dragon Age to fail during. Avoiding the new Dragon Age won't prevent future hard disk failures. But sooner or later Freehold DM will lose another hard disk and either become enlightened about these things or avoid yet another program.
As for me I have yet to finish Dragon Age Origins OR Dragon Age 2... Is it just me or did the difficulty of combats in DA2 wildly vary? I had to restart that game too many times when I realized my builds sucked horribly and I became stuck on an impossible combat. Makes me wish easy mode really was easy... if just as a way to continue without starting from square one over and over again.
Werthead |
As for me I have yet to finish Dragon Age Origins OR Dragon Age 2... Is it just me or did the difficulty of combats in DA2 wildly vary? I had to restart that game too many times when I realized my builds sucked horribly and I became stuck on an impossible combat. Makes me wish easy mode really was easy... if just as a way to continue without starting from square one over and over again.
I didn't think it was possible to nerf your builds on DA2. Any deficiencies in your main character can be met by picking different companions.
To be honest, I'd put the game on "Casual" to get through it. The game was designed to appeal to people who aren't keen on combat and just want to enjoy the story (ME3 had the same thing), and combat is easily the weakest thing about the game so I'd recommend doing everything you can to minimise it.
Rynjin |
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Apparently the main menu freezing is a problem others are having. Here's hoping for a patch soon.
*Cries tears*
Okay, so, if I move quick on the main menu and hit New Game, it will make a new game, and the game runs perfectly fine (a bit of lag here and there but I can fix that with a bit of menu tweaking).
If I exit back to the main menu, however, I have a time limit of about 20 seconds before the game freezes.
WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?
Aranna |
Quote:As for me I have yet to finish Dragon Age Origins OR Dragon Age 2... Is it just me or did the difficulty of combats in DA2 wildly vary? I had to restart that game too many times when I realized my builds sucked horribly and I became stuck on an impossible combat. Makes me wish easy mode really was easy... if just as a way to continue without starting from square one over and over again.I didn't think it was possible to nerf your builds on DA2. Any deficiencies in your main character can be met by picking different companions.
To be honest, I'd put the game on "Casual" to get through it. The game was designed to appeal to people who aren't keen on combat and just want to enjoy the story (ME3 had the same thing), and combat is easily the weakest thing about the game so I'd recommend doing everything you can to minimise it.
I am already on casual and finding that combat is either super easy or massively impossible. Swapping companions doesn't help... probably because I didn't properly equip the ones I didn't use. I seem to recall an option where you could have the game level the people for me... maybe that will solve my ineptitude over builds? When I try yet again to play I will have to try that.
PS: Have patience they will patch the menu thing soon. This is why I no longer grab a game on day one. Let everyone else find the bugs so that when I do buy it the game will play smoothly.
Freehold DM |
Werthead wrote:Quote:As for me I have yet to finish Dragon Age Origins OR Dragon Age 2... Is it just me or did the difficulty of combats in DA2 wildly vary? I had to restart that game too many times when I realized my builds sucked horribly and I became stuck on an impossible combat. Makes me wish easy mode really was easy... if just as a way to continue without starting from square one over and over again.I didn't think it was possible to nerf your builds on DA2. Any deficiencies in your main character can be met by picking different companions.
To be honest, I'd put the game on "Casual" to get through it. The game was designed to appeal to people who aren't keen on combat and just want to enjoy the story (ME3 had the same thing), and combat is easily the weakest thing about the game so I'd recommend doing everything you can to minimise it.
I am already on casual and finding that combat is either super easy or massively impossible. Swapping companions doesn't help... probably because I didn't properly equip the ones I didn't use. I seem to recall an option where you could have the game level the people for me... maybe that will solve my ineptitude over builds? When I try yet again to play I will have to try that.
PS: Have patience they will patch the menu thing soon. This is why I no longer grab a game on day one. Let everyone else find the bugs so that when I do buy it the game will play smoothly.
seconded on casual weirdness. It was very swingy, I had to up the difficulty in some places so the combat would be more regular.
Auto leveling does help in general if you want to just focus on your character.
Rynjin |
Werthead wrote:Quote:As for me I have yet to finish Dragon Age Origins OR Dragon Age 2... Is it just me or did the difficulty of combats in DA2 wildly vary? I had to restart that game too many times when I realized my builds sucked horribly and I became stuck on an impossible combat. Makes me wish easy mode really was easy... if just as a way to continue without starting from square one over and over again.I didn't think it was possible to nerf your builds on DA2. Any deficiencies in your main character can be met by picking different companions.
To be honest, I'd put the game on "Casual" to get through it. The game was designed to appeal to people who aren't keen on combat and just want to enjoy the story (ME3 had the same thing), and combat is easily the weakest thing about the game so I'd recommend doing everything you can to minimise it.
I am already on casual and finding that combat is either super easy or massively impossible. Swapping companions doesn't help... probably because I didn't properly equip the ones I didn't use. I seem to recall an option where you could have the game level the people for me... maybe that will solve my ineptitude over builds? When I try yet again to play I will have to try that.
PS: Have patience they will patch the menu thing soon. This is why I no longer grab a game on day one. Let everyone else find the bugs so that when I do buy it the game will play smoothly.
Try it on Normal?
I remember combat being so easy all I had to do was mash the attack button and spam Talents most times (I was playing a dual wielding Rogue...which is actually really good in that game. DA2: 1, Pathfinder: 0).
So it kinda makes sense that Casual sometimes makes it so easy it loops back around to being hard. =p
Kalshane |
I am already on casual and finding that combat is either super easy or massively impossible. Swapping companions doesn't help... probably because I didn't properly equip the ones I didn't use. I seem to recall an option where you could have the game level the people for me... maybe that will solve my ineptitude over builds? When I try yet again to play I will have to try that.PS: Have patience they will patch the menu thing soon. This is why I no longer grab a game on day one. Let everyone else find the bugs so that when I do buy it the game will play smoothly.
If you're playing DA2 on PC, there's a Story Mode mod that drops the difficulty on Causual even further. I just installed it on my game because I still haven't finished DA2 and want to complete it before starting DA:I. (I wasn't finding Casual too difficult, but easier fights means I can move through the game quicker.)