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Since most of North America stopped DST a few hours ago, those of us that don't use it are adjusting. Anyone you communicate with who does not normally use DST is now an hour behind where they were in relation to you yesterday.
grey areas on this map do not use DST.
(Triggered by having dutifully stayed off the server around 10:00am my time, then getting kicked at 11:00 because server downtime is now later for me)
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Since most of North America stopped DST a few hours ago, those of us that don't use it are adjusting. Anyone you communicate with who does not normally use DST is now an hour behind where they were in relation to you yesterday.
grey areas on this map do not use DST.
(Triggered by having dutifully stayed off the server around 10:00am my time, then getting kicked at 11:00 because server downtime is now later for me)
I started warning people about downtime an hour early today. It was nice being on Server Time for the summer, but that's over now.
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9am PST is still, and always will be Noon EST... but this is because PST is Pacific STANDARD Time and EST is Eastern STANDARD Time.
This is what we just switched to. We were on PDT (Pacific DAYLIGHT Time)
I have signed many petitions to get rid of Daylight Savings Time because it is stupid.
So, just to be clear, Paizo and GoblinWorks is now at PST which is GMT -8. I am at least fortunate that I live in the same area so I just have to look at my own clock.
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Daylight Savings time, like summer vacation from school, is an artifact from when most people in North America and Europe were farmers and needed to work their fields 12-16 hours a day at certain times of year, and needed sunlight to do it.
In the winter there is much less to be done agriculturally in places where it freezes so it doesn't matter if it gets dark at 5pm and you don't need to pull the kids out of school to help with a gigantic harvest.
Heck, we're only using this entire time keeping system in the first place because there are so many of them fancy high-tech railroad trains.
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The farmers didn't care about the time change. They kept getting up at sunrise and going back at sundown.
Daylight savings time comes from the era of electric lights, and playing games with the clocks reduced electricity usages noticeably.
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In Australia the State of Queensland refuses to have daylight saving.
They claim it is because the extra sunlight fades their curtains and makes the grass grow to quick so they have to cut it more often.
In reality we know its because they are lazy sods that refuse to get up an hour earlier.
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In Australia the State of Queensland refuses to have daylight saving.
They claim it is because the extra sunlight fades their curtains and makes the grass grow to quick so they have to cut it more often.
In reality we know its because they are lazy sods that refuse to get up an hour earlier.
That's funny and also drives me crazy because proclaiming what time it is doesn't actually change how much sunlight there is during a particular day, but there are people that would believe what you said.
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The farmers didn't care about the time change. They kept getting up at sunrise and going back at sundown.
Daylight savings time comes from the era of electric lights, and playing games with the clocks reduced electricity usages noticeably.
So Benjamin Franklin invented daylight savings time to save on his electricity bill?
Yes Ben Franklin was credited with its invention even though the practice has been in use since the invention of time.
The use of Time change is to follow the practices of farmers.
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It's fascinating how often it's stated that the farmers are to blame, when farmers were the only organised lobby against Daylight Savings. My mother grew up in Wisconsin--for our outside-of-America readers, a state heavily invested in the dairy industry--and there the saying was always "the cows don't care what time it is".
I grew up in Indiana, decades before it decided to join the madness, and I've been in Arizona for 20 years, so most of my life I've been able to leave my poor clocks alone.
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I live part-time in MST and HST(no DST there) and work with a bunch of East-coasters, Europeans, and Canadians...I never really know what time it is anymore.
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During his time as an American envoy to France, Benjamin Franklin, publisher of the old English proverb, "Early to bed, and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise",[25][26] anonymously published a letter suggesting that Parisians economize on candles by rising earlier to use morning sunlight.[27] This 1784 proposed taxing shutters, rationing candles, and waking the public by ringing church bells and firing cannons at sunrise.[28] ; like ancient Rome, 18th-century Europe did not keep precise schedules. However, this soon changed as rail and communication networks came to require a standardization of time unknown in Franklin's day.[29]
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The farmers didn't care about the time change. They kept getting up at sunrise and going back at sundown.
Daylight savings time comes from the era of electric lights, and playing games with the clocks reduced electricity usages noticeably.
So Benjamin Franklin invented daylight savings time to save on his electricity bill?
Yes Ben Franklin was credited with its invention even though the practice has been in use since the invention of time.
The use of Time change is to follow the practices of farmers.
Huh
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Until railroads created standardized time, DST couldn't even be a cogent idea; it would simply be setting your clock wrongly.
Railroads standardized time because trains had to use the clock where they were to depart stations, and when each town had its clock set to the local noon, scheduling tracks to avoid collisions was nearly impossible.
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Until railroads created standardized time, DST couldn't even be a cogent idea; it would simply be setting your clock wrongly.
Railroads standardized time because trains had to use the clock where they were to depart stations, and when each town had its clock set to the local noon, scheduling tracks to avoid collisions was nearly impossible.
What you are talking about is for time zones not Daylight Savings Time.
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Daylight savings time in the US was set up during the Great War aka WW1. It was to allow workers as much light as possible in the defense factories. It was supposed to only last until the war was over but like any government creation, it continued on beyond its purpose. Many areas repealed it after the war but some kept it.
It was restarted in WW2 nationally for the same reasons.
check out Wikipedia for daylight savings time for the complex story.
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What you are talking about is for time zones not Daylight Savings Time.Until railroads created standardized time, DST couldn't even be a cogent idea; it would simply be setting your clock wrongly.
Railroads standardized time because trains had to use the clock where they were to depart stations, and when each town had its clock set to the local noon, scheduling tracks to avoid collisions was nearly impossible.
I believe the point is that any discussion of "DST" would have been meaningless until we had Standard Time, which didn't exist until the Railroads. Prior to that we used local time, which would vary all over the place even within a small area, so setting your clock earlier was nothing but a confusing preference.
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It's fascinating how often it's stated that the farmers are to blame, when farmers were the only organised lobby against Daylight Savings. My mother grew up in Wisconsin--for our outside-of-America readers, a state heavily invested in the dairy industry--and there the saying was always "the cows don't care what time it is".
I grew up in Indiana, decades before it decided to join the madness, and I've been in Arizona for 20 years, so most of my life I've been able to leave my poor clocks alone.
Dairy farmers are one of the few classes of people with a genuine problem with daylight saving. The cows stick to their own schedule but the milk trucks turn up an hour earlier due to clock time.
For everyone else all DST does is get peoples wake/sleep cycle closer to natural. In our society people tend to stay up to all hours and then sleep in as late as they can, DST forces them to get up earlier which in theory should be healthier.
As I said the main opposition to DST is people wanting to sleep in.
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In Australia the State of Queensland refuses to have daylight saving.
They claim it is because the extra sunlight fades their curtains and makes the grass grow to quick so they have to cut it more often.
In reality we know its because they are lazy sods that refuse to get up an hour earlier.
Actually its more to do with health concerns. Most children’s outdoor activities, such as school lunch breaks, sports matches, physical education and travelling home, are still concentrated mostly between 1 and 3 pm Eastern Standard Time (EST). On daylight saving, these would be automatically shifted forward — well into the day’s peak UVR period, and at the hottest time of the year. Using the UVR graphs published by the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety agency, this shift in time doubles the UVR exposure risk.
edit: I'm a queenslander living in the north of the state and you can take your daylight savings and shove it haha