Huh... Would be quite interested in seeing answers to this.
My approach, personally, would be to attempt to Lift the creature 5 feet above the desired space, and ending the grapple as a free action. Since it's minimal falling distance, with no chance of taking damage, they can just land upright. It's the in-game equivalent of yanking someone up onto their feet, with a... very... hard yank.
Though I don't know much about the act of lifting other creatures.
There are no rules to cover this scenario, which means ask your GM, or expect table variation.
Personally I'd allow it in place of moving them.
I didn't think the rules covered this, but Bane Wraith's trick should work! Grapple lets you move an opponent to an adjacent square. The rules for three-dimensional combat extrapolate the square cell model to cubes. So place the opponent in the cell five feet above its current position. You cannot be prone in mid-air, so this would render the opponent no longer prone. The opponent would then fall 5 feet to the ground, landing on his or her feet.
You might be limited to a creature whose weight wouldn't cause you to hit your carrying capacity, though, since that's the limit of what you can lift over your head--though I suppose you could flavor it as flinging the opponent upward rather than lifting him or her if the GM is down with it. Also, when their next action comes up, they can drop prone again as a free action. But if it's still useful to you, go for it.
Reposition can be used for this in a similar fashion and doesn't require an attack roll.
They can just drop prone again as a free action/not support their weight when you let them go. I would struggle to argue against a GM allowing them to drop prone immediately rather than waiting until their turn.
Can I ask to what end you want the enemy not to be prone?
Can I ask to what end you want the enemy not to be prone?
Be a noble and just paladin accepting a surrender? =D
...Yeah, high hopes.
So it's easier for the archer to shoot them in the back?Can I ask to what end you want the enemy not to be prone?Be a noble and just paladin accepting a surrender? =D
...Yeah, high hopes.
It didn't even occur to me, but you're right. Heck, if their free-action-to-drop-prone were only allowed on their turn, then this`d be a viable strategy.
Archers, gunslingers and ray-based/ranged touch attack spells ... All you need to do is charge their trench, pick 'em up, and hold 'em out like a pincushion.
Just pray it's a 'Merciful' spell...
Maybe his monk ally has Vicious Stomp ? Force the victim not-prone and when he falls prone again the monk gets another kick ?
I didn't think the rules covered this, but Bane Wraith's trick should work! Grapple lets you move an opponent to an adjacent square. The rules for three-dimensional combat extrapolate the square cell model to cubes. So place the opponent in the cell five feet above its current position. You cannot be prone in mid-air, so this would render the opponent no longer prone. The opponent would then fall 5 feet to the ground, landing on his or her feet.
You might be limited to a creature whose weight wouldn't cause you to hit your carrying capacity, though, since that's the limit of what you can lift over your head--though I suppose you could flavor it as flinging the opponent upward rather than lifting him or her if the GM is down with it. Also, when their next action comes up, they can drop prone again as a free action. But if it's still useful to you, go for it.
Reposition can be used for this in a similar fashion and doesn't require an attack roll.
Why did I say it doesn't require an attack roll.... I meant it doesn't require grappling.
I didn't think the rules covered this, but Bane Wraith's trick should work! Grapple lets you move an opponent to an adjacent square. The rules for three-dimensional combat extrapolate the square cell model to cubes. So place the opponent in the cell five feet above its current position. You cannot be prone in mid-air, so this would render the opponent no longer prone. The opponent would then fall 5 feet to the ground, landing on his or her feet.
You might be limited to a creature whose weight wouldn't cause you to hit your carrying capacity, though, since that's the limit of what you can lift over your head--though I suppose you could flavor it as flinging the opponent upward rather than lifting him or her if the GM is down with it. Also, when their next action comes up, they can drop prone again as a free action. But if it's still useful to you, go for it.
Reposition can be used for this in a similar fashion and doesn't require an attack roll.
So if you have a creature grappled and adjust them 5 feet in the air...can you then pin them so they can't move?
Can you drop prone if you can't move?
That would be pretty amusing.
It would be. Unfortunately, I'd argue not, since "Falling" isn't really an action on the opponent's part. Dropping prone, however, is a free action, and does require it to be their turn. In which case, you can more or less keep them upright and pinned as long as you like =P
Or you could use this trick to put an ally on his feet without provoking. Most melee guys hate trading full attacks when they are prone but the enemy is not.