Wish-Fabricate Magic Item

[Jamieface]

I need some help with a thing that's come up in a campaign of mine, so would really love to have some input from other people with what they think.

A player of mine found that Wish says it can duplicate spells with up to 10K gold pieces worth of price components, so you could technically use it to cast Fabricate and "give" that spell a chunk of gold worth that much, then transform it into actual coins. If you then put Wish and Fabricate on a magic item with, for example, one use per day. If I remember right, this would cost about 400K. In just a little over a month, you've already earned that money back.

From a completely cold rules standpoint, I can see how this works, but it's also so obviously an exploit of the system and the wording of the spells, with how Fabricate says that the material worked is a component, and not a target of the spell.

Thoughts?

[Onyxlion]

This is a time old tale with players finding ways to create money.

My advice is to just talk with the player about it. Also I would use wishes own caps as hard caps if you let it go through. Oh bah 3.5 wish actually had a gold cap on how much it could crest of material. You could look at old wish for options old wish.

Also technically you don't need both fab and wish, just use the wish to dup fan w/ the "material up to 10,000g".

[shroudb]

and that's why custom made items are:

STRICKLY UP TO DM TO ALLOW.

by RAW and RAI, all items must be approved by the DM no matter what tables exist. The rulebook even has explicit examples of spells that shouldn't be used in creating magic items, despite the table next to them actually allowing them.

Even in a 100% raw table, players have ZERO saying on what they can create.

[Bob Bob Bob]

Alright, so let's run the numbers. First off, I'm ignoring the Fabricate. You don't actually need it, you're casting Wish and duplicating Fabricate (and providing it with the material component).

9x17x1800/5 for 1/day command word Wish (or any 9th level spell). Then we include the expensive material component for another 50x25000. So far our total is 1,305,080. That's three and a half years of crafting time and it will pay for itself in 44 days.

Here's what you missed:

PRD Magic Item Creation wrote:

Spell has material component cost: Add directly into price of item per charge 4
4. If item is continuous or unlimited, not charged, determine cost as if it had 100 charges. If it has some daily limit, determine as if it had 50 charges.

So a 1/day wish item comes with 50 material components to wish attached. It also comes with a gigantic glowing "steal me" sign, DM fiat to screw you over, and costs more money than even a 20th level player has (can't reduce the cost of the material components). So... not seeing the problem.

[Alecak]

Also wish has drawbacks if it isnt worded right. This is a GM call regardless.