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Lamontius wrote:

casts

BRAK
on Tiamat

You inflict this on Tiamat.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

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SAMAS wrote:
graystone wrote:
SAMAS wrote:

Thing is, while there are spells that can recharge your Arc Rifle/Railgun/Nuclear Resonator, how are you gonna use them? most classes that would actually want to use these guns aren't spellcasters.

I suppose you could multiclass to a spellcaster, which will make you less adept at using the weapon.

Or you could hope the party wizard is willing to sacrifice one or two of his spell slots to be your personal ammo caddy. And heaven help you if it's a spontaneous caster...

Touch attacks aren't too much of an issue with a caster even at 1/2 BAB. Toss in 1/2 casters and 3/4 BAB and it's not a bad deal.

The recharge spell is for bard 2, cleric 3, magus 3, sorcerer/wizard 3. A Myrmidarch magus can spellstrike through a ranged weapon attack for instance. A Archaeologist bard can rock a blaster with luck bonuses and rechanging with a 2nd level spell! The Techslinger gunslinger has Covet Charge and Charge Recycling to use grit for charges and Charge Recycling even works on items that can't normally be recharged. A warpriest can totally rock a stun baton[the stun DC = 10 + the damage dealt by the critical hit and they can use the sacred weapon damage!]. Plenty of classes can use them.

but most spellcasters already get spells just as impressive as anything most of the high-tech guns can do, so most of them don't need them all that much.

This. If you're spending spells recharging your laser gun, you could have just cast scorching ray in the first place.

Similarly, this is part of what keeps relics in Numeria: They're mostly curiosities, since if it's the effect you want, you can get it done at a similar cost with magic, without having the Technic League put you on their hit list.

And if you're the kind of scholar who wants to study how such devices work, rather than just using them against your enemies, then you're probably going to travel to Numeria to do it, since that's easier than trying to bring them all to you. (Like how an Osirionologist is probably going to go to Sophis at some point.)


Tacticslion wrote:

Mmmmmmmmmmmeh. Advent Children is... okay. It's a little weird, and has a few elements that don't make sense in the greater context of FF7, but it's certainly got interesting action sequences, and it's nice to see the gang working together again.

I did like the minimovie with Zack, though. That was awesome.

Did you see the original version of Advent Children, or Advent Children Complete (I think that version may have been the blu-ray only one). Cause seriously, Complete made waaaaaaaaay more sense. And was far longer. Most of the additional content they added was actually what was needed to have the whole thing tie together properly and become comprehensible, instead of just extra fight scenes like I expected. They retouched a lot of other scenes as well, though I was a bit annoyed to see that my favourite moment with Cid (dropping out of the sky to save Tifa and Denzel with his spear from a bunch of those monsters at once) was replaced by Cloud riding in to the rescue on Fenrir


I've no idea. Probably the original. It wasn't terribly comprehensible, as I recall.

Silver Crusade

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God all this movie talk makes me want an animated, super-stylized Final Fantasy IV movie that much more.

Redemption, Eidolons, Moon Wizards, and Albino Glam Paladins* made that one of the most important games of my childhood. :)

That and the bards, monks, white mage/archers, and elemental fiends.

Even when I can objectively see where some other entries did some things better, 4 is still the one that had the greatest impact on me and is closest to my heart. :)

*To this day I don't know if maybe he was born with it or maybe it was Maybeline.


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Give me a five-star review or I'LL BIG BANG YOUR ENTIRE REALITY BACK INTO THE STONE AGE!!


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Also the bards only count if they're spoony. That is a must.


Ross Byers wrote:
This. If you're spending spells recharging your laser gun, you could have just cast scorching ray in the first place.

I'll have to disagree. That's like saying "why recharge a magic staff when I could just cast scorching ray". :P

And that's assuming that class even gets scorching ray. Lets look at it this way. You get a wizard and give him a Gravity Rifle. Now her CMB uses Int+4 instead of dex/str. It goes from no chance to a possibility. Make it an Eldritch Knight and it's even better. All for lower level spells slots used to charge it.

Now toss in Transformation along with Int+4 to CMD to 150' ranged maneuvers. 20 times for 2 third level spells at base to charge the weapon to max.

I'm not saying everyone is going to want a tech item or that they be super popular. I'm just disagreeing with "most classes that would actually want to use these guns aren't spellcasters". Several wouldn't have an issue. Touch AC just gets easier as you level up so hitting isn't an issue. Add in 3/4 BAB and self buffs like the Archaeologist bard and tech items look attractive for 'gish' type casters using weapons. A Myrmidarch can shot the gun AND cast the impressive spell for instance.

Silver Crusade

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Zeromus wrote:
Give me a five-star review or I'LL BIG BANG YOUR ENTIRE REALITY BACK INTO THE STONE AGE!!

How about you put some bloody pants on first?! No one wants to see your disturbing Giger parts.

For the gods' sake, we have a child in the group! By my reckoning... It's complicated.

I don't really know how different temporal speeds work. Just put some on some pants.


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Mikaze wrote:
Even when I can objectively see where some other entries did some things better, 4 is still the one that had the greatest impact on me and is closest to my heart. :)

For me, this is Chrono Trigger and FF6 (though, of course, I knew it as FF3).

CT was pretty much the best thing ever. I'd never run into a game with... well, with a story. It was a-mazing.

FF6 followed shortly thereafter - I found it for two bucks (just the cartridge, nothing else) in a bargain bin (dumped with a large number of returns like the awful Eek! the Cat game), realized that it was the same company that made CT, and begged dad to buy it for me, which he did.

Later, of course, would come FFT, and Vagrant Story, but CT and FF6 were my first.

'dat Aria.

'dat <redacted for CT spoilers>.

I cried, and I don't care who knows it.


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Pretty much 1-for-1 with Tactics here. CT was THE game for me. Still is. FF6 is a very, very close second.

Silver Crusade

FFX is the closest to my heart. It just hit me at the right time and connected with me on a lot of different levels.


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Cecil Harvey wrote:
Zeromus wrote:
Give me a five-star review or I'LL BIG BANG YOUR ENTIRE REALITY BACK INTO THE STONE AGE!!

How about you put some bloody pants on first?! No one wants to see your disturbing Giger parts.

For the gods' sake, we have a child in the group! By my reckoning... It's complicated.

I don't really know how different temporal speeds work. Just put some on some pants.

I am hatred incarnate! I have no parts! And even if I did I'd show them off just to make you suffer!

Zemus may have had pants, but they probably exploded with everything else when I crawled out of his corpse.

Grand Lodge

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My heart bleeds for the Secret of Mana that could have been.


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Tacticslion wrote:
I've no idea. Probably the original. It wasn't terribly comprehensible, as I recall.

Yup, there's the problem. Get hold of Advent Children Complete and it'll make way more sense.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Mikaze wrote:
Even when I can objectively see where some other entries did some things better, 4 is still the one that had the greatest impact on me and is closest to my heart. :)

For me, this is Chrono Trigger and FF6 (though, of course, I knew it as FF3).

CT was pretty much the best thing ever. I'd never run into a game with... well, with a story. It was a-mazing.

FF6 followed shortly thereafter . . .

Later, of course, would come FFT, and Vagrant Story, but CT and FF6 were my first. . . .

TriOmegaZero wrote:
My heart bleeds for the Secret of Mana that could have been.

Amen.

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