Vanish Vs Invisibility


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I already have Vanish but it only stays for 5 rounds. Which is out of combat around 30 seconds. If I swap it out for another lvl 1 spell and take the lvl 2 spell Invisibility in stead, would that be a smart choice?

Obviously it's better to have a longer invisibility time but is it worth the sacrifice of a lvl 2 slot?

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It depends. Vanish is a good emergency spell.

More information like what class/race/level you are playing would help everyone give you better advice.


Sorcerer lvl 5 and Dragon disciple lvl 3. I'm a gnome and I mainly use fire damage spells like Fireball or a fire breath weapon.


It depends on what you are going to do with it? In combat you will probably never need more than 5 rounds of invisibility. Out of combat with lots of sneaking around, 5 rounds will almost never be enough. Which do you think you will be using it for more often?


Valandil Ancalime wrote:
It depends on what you are going to do with it? In combat you will probably never need more than 5 rounds of invisibility. Out of combat with lots of sneaking around, 5 rounds will almost never be enough. Which do you think you will be using it for more often?

Or if you have a semi-stealthy friend that needs the help for scouting. Or if you have a familiar that seems to be getting targeted too often for your level of comfort. Then invisibility is great.

On the other hand I have a sorc that mostly buffs and summons. So it is primary defense for him in fights. He casts vanish (sometimes with a silence rod) just before entering and area where a fight is expected then he can buff and summon as needed and probably not be targeted for an attack. If things are still active at 4 rounds, I will probably be casting an attack spell anyway. So for him, vanish is plenty long enough.

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Invisibility is good for scouting, and as emergency potions. For everything else, there's vanish.

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TrollingJoker wrote:

I already have Vanish but it only stays for 5 rounds. Which is out of combat around 30 seconds. If I swap it out for another lvl 1 spell and take the lvl 2 spell Invisibility in stead, would that be a smart choice?

Obviously it's better to have a longer invisibility time but is it worth the sacrifice of a lvl 2 slot?

It depends on what you're using it for. If you need more than 30 seconds of invisibility, that answers your question. Given that it's a longer duration to start with and uncapped, it definitely is worth a one level jump.

Remember that Invisibility is the standard spell, Vanish is really a weakened version of it.

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