Hi, All.
Some races receive a bonus to Perception (+2). I play a half-elf, and when using some online character generators, they seem to treat Perception as a class skill, even though I'm playing classes that don't get Perception.
Does a racial bonus to a skill mean that you get to treat it like a class skill for the purpose of allocating skill points?
Thanks!
No. That bonus doesn't make it a class skill. Unless your class gives it as a class skill, you don't get that with perception. I generally would not trust character generators as your source for rules. Are you sure this isn't something to do with how half-elves get skill focus as a bonus feat?
Anyway, there are traits that give it as a class skill, if that is what you are looking for. Seeker is one of the better ones as far as that goes, since it doesn't hold an requirements. It also give a +1 to the skill (so you get a total +4 over what you would have otherwise)
lemeres wrote: No. That bonus doesn't make it a class skill. Unless your class gives it as a class skill, you don't get that with perception. I generally would not trust character generators as your source for rules. Are you sure this isn't something to do with how half-elves get skill focus as a bonus feat?
Anyway, there are traits that give it as a class skill, if that is what you are looking for. Seeker is one of the better ones as far as that goes, since it doesn't hold an requirements. It also give a +1 to the skill (so you get a total +4 over what you would have otherwise)
Thanks, lemeres. No, it's not a screw up on my side. My Skill Focus was spent elsewhere. Specifically, I am multi-classed as Wizard 1/Fighter 1, so a rank in Perception should cost me 2 skill points. Both generators I tried treated my 1 rank as a 1 point cost. That's what threw me.
Plus, it kind of makes sense that a race-based skill bonus would mean that you could treat that skill as "class" regardless of your actual class. I just couldn't find such a rule anywhere.
That's not how it works in PF. All skills are 1 point per rank; being trained in a class skill just gives you a +3 bonus with it.
Jaycen wrote:
Thanks, lemeres. No, it's not a screw up on my side. My Skill Focus was spent elsewhere. Specifically, I am multi-classed as Wizard 1/Fighter 1, so a rank in Perception should cost me 2 skill points. Both generators I tried treated my 1 rank as a 1 point cost. That's what threw me.
That's how it worked in 3.x
In PF, a skill being a class skill gets you a flat +3 ranks. The cost per rank of class and non-class skills is always 1 point.
Try putting a point in any non-class skill in one of these generators.
Not +3 ranks, a +3 bonus.
That's because they changed the way class skills work in Pathfinder. In 3.5 you had class and cross-class skills, with class skills costing one skill point and cross-class costing two. In PF, all skills cost 1 point, and having a skill listed as a class skill means that if you have at least one rank in that skill you receive a +3 bonus to the skill. This was changed in order to make skills simpler, and the +3 bonus is there to balance the fact that PF does not provide x4 skill points at level one.
/Ninja'd
OH!
Thanks to everyone for your answers. Now it makes sense.
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