Animal Companion Question


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Shadow Lodge 2/5

At the risk of having me put in my place about a silly question/repeat of previous misunderstandings of some similar Q&A I've had before, here it is:

If the Additional Resource page says that all of a certain animal is available for PFS play but the resource its self doesn't give an animal companion stat; Does that mean that the creature in question can only achieve 'Pet' status for a character or is there some way I am missing to incorporate said beastie into a druid's companion choices that I don't know about yet?

(Or as choices for Summon Nature's ally/Monster spells?)

The animals in question are from 'Osirion, Legacy of the Pharaohs'.

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It sounds like you are referring to the jackal or the asp in this case, which do not have any stats for being an animal companion or familiar. The only one of the animals that has any use is the ostrich, which has statistics to use one as an animal companion. The AR is just a bit confusingly worded with the inclusion of 54-55.

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Matthew Starch wrote:
It sounds like you are referring to the jackal or the asp in this case, which do not have any stats for being an animal companion or familiar. The only one of the animals that has any use is the ostrich, which has statistics to use one as an animal companion. The AR is just a bit confusingly worded with the inclusion of 54-55.

Yes, I am aware of the pages in question. That is why I am asking. :)

I have the book and am head over heals in love it the contents for character background elements I want to work with in the future for PFS.

If I can only purchase the animals a pets, then I'll just have to put up with it until a more specific update or boon comes along to set the records straight.

I was mostly hoping that someone knew for certain if there was any more info on the subject.

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Kezzie Redlioness wrote:
head over heals in love

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I just got the title for my Shelynite life oracle's series of romance novels!

Spoiler:
That wasn't supposed to be mean or anything. It just really tickled my funnybone.

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Kezzie Redlioness wrote:
Matthew Starch wrote:
It sounds like you are referring to the jackal or the asp in this case, which do not have any stats for being an animal companion or familiar. The only one of the animals that has any use is the ostrich, which has statistics to use one as an animal companion. The AR is just a bit confusingly worded with the inclusion of 54-55.

Yes, I am aware of the pages in question. That is why I am asking. :)

I have the book and am head over heals in love it the contents for character background elements I want to work with in the future for PFS.

If I can only purchase the animals a pets, then I'll just have to put up with it until a more specific update or boon comes along to set the records straight.

I was mostly hoping that someone knew for certain if there was any more info on the subject.

there isn't a purchase price for the jackal or the asp, so there isn't really an option to purchase one, even as a pet.

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Belafon wrote:

Kezzie Redlioness wrote:

head over heals in love
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I just got the title for my Shelynite life oracle's series of romance novels!

Spoiler:

*giggle* Yes. My idea was for either another witch character (like my 9th level Osirion faction hedge witch), a desert druid, or a serpentine bloodline sorcerer who summons some "cuddly" venomous snakes for some Aspis Consortium mook to hug. >:)

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Matthew Starch wrote:

Matthew Starch wrote:

It sounds like you are referring to the jackal or the asp in this case, which do not have any stats for being an animal companion or familiar. The only one of the animals that has any use is the ostrich, which has statistics to use one as an animal companion. The AR is just a bit confusingly worded with the inclusion of 54-55.
Yes, I am aware of the pages in question. That is why I am asking. :)
I have the book and am head over heals in love it the contents for character background elements I want to work with in the future for PFS.
If I can only purchase the animals a pets, then I'll just have to put up with it until a more specific update or boon comes along to set the records straight.
I was mostly hoping that someone knew for certain if there was any more info on the subject.
there isn't a purchase price for the jackal or the asp, so there isn't really an option to purchase one, even as a pet.

And there is the problem I'm having. What can I do about it?

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There is nothing to be done, neither the jackal nor the asp have any statistics, including a price to purchase them, so they aren't available in any way, currently, for a PFS character, regardless of them being in the pages mentioned in the AR.

Silver Crusade 2/5 *

Jackal = wolf, asp = snake?

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Matthew Starch wrote:
There is nothing to be done, neither the jackal nor the asp have any statistics, including a price to purchase them, so they aren't available in any way, currently, for a PFS character, regardless of them being in the pages mentioned in the AR.

Well...that's just peachy. :(

Then they shouldn't say that "ALLanimals on pgaes 54–55 except the hetkoshu crocodile, are legal for play".

They should just say the ostrich is!

In protest, I'm going to write up a plains druid with an ostrich a.c. named 'Bird' and teach it combat tricks to kick Aspis booty!!! :P

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Just call your wolf Anubis. The Golden Jackal is practically a wolf anyway.

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Nice thought David but, Wolf is medium that goes to large at 7th level and Jackal is small. Asp's poison does 1d2 Con damage while the viper only does 1 Con damage, period. *otherwise identical, true.*

(I know, it's silly but sometimes I care about details like that).

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That's pretty close, actually. It's a big jackal :)

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Kezzie Redlioness wrote:

Nice thought David but, Wolf is medium that goes to large at 7th level and Jackal is small. Asp's poison does 1d2 Con damage while the viper only does 1 Con damage, period. *otherwise identical, true.*

(I know, it's silly but sometimes I care about details like that).

Instead of taking the listed benefit at 4th or 7th level, you can instead choose to increase the companion's Dexterity and Constitution by 2. That should keep it in the plausible for a jackal size range. (as much as that causes my inner munchkin to make a will save its a legal option)

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Aw...poor inner munchkin. Oh,well! I'm sure it will find other rules to bend to the brink of breaking! :P

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Of course, this now leads me to another set of questions regarding the ostrich's crouch ability and any illusion spell that can in-fact make the bird appear as a bush until it attacks or the creature makes a will save to disbelieve it. :P

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The Small Dog from Bestiary 1 states that you may use their stats to represent a jackal, FWIW.

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Nefreet wrote:
The Small Dog from Bestiary 1 states that you may use their stats to represent a jackal, FWIW.

Or the stats for the AC hyena.

Sovereign Court

Per it saying all the listed pages are legal, other things can use those pages such as Beast Shape/Wild Shape spells/ability.

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Kezzie Redlioness wrote:

Of course, this now leads me to another set of questions regarding the ostrich's crouch ability and any illusion spell that can in-fact make the bird appear as a bush until it attacks or the creature makes a will save to disbelieve it. :P

Maybe dust of appearance could do it

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Fomsie wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
The Small Dog from Bestiary 1 states that you may use their stats to represent a jackal, FWIW.
Or the stats for the AC hyena.

But what about the rules about specific trumps general? In this case, an animal that now has actual stats is to be used if you have access to it as opposed to the suggestion of a "legal" re-skin option within reason.

(i.e. You're to use the stats of foxes from Ultimate Magic/Beastiary 3 as opposed to the small dog re-skin option from Beastiary)

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Yeah, but as you say, it doesn't have actual AC stats.

Shadow Lodge 2/5

That is precisely why I 'm sad that I can't use that ACTUAL stats for the jackal. :(

* See "Plan B" for desert-recon/attack ostrich*

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