Anything with evasion would take no damage from that attack on a successful save.
The Secrets of the Magus (PFRPG) PDF
A 3pp supplement book.
-S
Sounds like a homebrew encounter for homebrew content (well, 3PP isn't quite homebrew, but it's just as supplemental to the game as homebrew content is, so there's that).
I will point out that everybody is overlooking the OP stating the enemies are immune to the effect. (Improved) Evasion does not grant immunity on a successful save, it simply says the target takes no damage when the proxy occurs. That is by no means immunity; if that were the case, why bother with needing a saving throw?
It's something you will have to grin and bear; not every enemy will have Force Damage immunity, but some may, either due to spells or a racial feature or (sub)type, in which case you'll just have to find a way to bypass it or do your job the old, time-consuming fashioned way.
Did your enemies use a lot of Magic Missiles?
Did you try asking your GM what it was?
Because I can guarantee he'll know better than we will.
The first thing that pops into my head that could do that with no visible effect would be a wall of force. However, that would have other side effects like...you know...not being able to hit them with anything else and them not being able to hit you either. So I'm kinda doubting it.
dose he know its an Arcana if he thinks its a spell he might be using Globe of Invulnerability, Lesser or Globe of Invulnerability.
even if he know he could still have the enemy be illusions, or he could be using Antimagic Field.
In addition there is always spell research. A magic user you are facing might have crated a new Resist Energy spell that can stop force type energy.
There are lots of different ways this could have been done. however I suspect he just dose not like you min maxing with a 3PP and might have gone to them as well to find something to stand up to you.
I would talk to your DM and clear the air. (Remember his job is to challenge the party so the game remains interesting)
good luck
dose he know its an Arcana if he thinks its a spell he might be using Globe of Invulnerability, Lesser or Globe of Invulnerability.
even if he know he could still have the enemy be illusions, or he could be using Antimagic Field.
In addition there is always spell research. A magic user you are facing might have crated a new Resist Energy spell that can stop force type energy.
There are lots of different ways this could have been done. however I suspect he just dose not like you min maxing with a 3PP and might have gone to them as well to find something to stand up to you.
I would talk to your DM and clear the air. (Remember his job is to challenge the party so the game remains interesting)
good luck
I don't think that makes sense either. Globe of Invulnerability states it blocks spells or spell-like abilities of level X or lower (it's a very powerful spell), and this Arcana doesn't have a specific spell or spell level associated with it. So it can't possibly be blocked unless the Globe of Invulnerability spells also block Supernatural effects as well (which I assume the Arcana in question is, since it doesn't cite a spell its mechanics follow or are designed from, a key difference between a Supernatural and Spell-Like Ability.
Illusions would allow saving throws to disbelieve once interacted in such a manner. All that was said was "It's Immune." Sanctuary would make more sense, if only because of the ambiguity of how a GM runs the "can't be attacked" clause, as many would definitely run it as "attack to no effect."
Spell research is possible, and given that the OP referenced a 3PP ability, it's definitely within the realm of possibility. But, if the enemies can cast it and have a spell book, the spell should be transferable.
I will say that it's probably a homebrew/3PP subject, but whether it's something he simply made up or is something he's ignoring for whatever reason, we won't know until the OP comes back in and gives us an update. More information would definitely help us in solving the problem...
So the pathfinder-sourced ring of forcefangs is out? At 8k gp, it's not really out of the ballpark.
So the pathfinder-sourced ring of forcefangs is out? At 8k gp, it's not really out of the ballpark.
Read the fine-print carefully...
This band negates any force spell or force spell-like ability targeted at the wearer. Doing so gives the ring a number of charges equal to the spell level of the incoming force effect. The ring can hold a maximum of 9 charges.
If an incoming force attack would charge the ring beyond this limit, the ring does not negate the attack or gain charges, and the attack affects the wearer normally. On command, the wearer can use the ring’s charges to cast magic missile, unleashing one missile (1d4+1 force damage) per charge but no more than five missiles per round.
The ring only works if the Force effect is from a spell or spell-like ability. The Arcana in question, I assume is neither of these, and is most likely a Supernatural effect (since it does not duplicate a spell's effects or says it creates an effect 'as the spell').
So by RAW, the GM is either cheating the OP with this ring (doubtful, considering it can't really even be properly calculated, given the mechanics it possesses), or the GM simply isn't using it, and instead is usingg something that simply has an innate immunity to Force damage. Giving the GM the benefit of the doubt since the OP isn't bashing him or pointing out an obvious failure of GMing, and that the game already consists of 3PP/Homebrew content, it's safe to say that the enemies being immune is a result of the latter, not the former.
Or he COULD be using that, and simply misunderstood how it worked (ignorance, not malice). A lot of people don't really distinguish between SLA and Su in some cases.
Or he COULD be using that, and simply misunderstood how it worked (ignorance, not malice). A lot of people don't really distinguish between SLA and Su in some cases.
That still doesn't add up though. It absorbs the spell level of the given Force Effect into the ring, and stores it for an eventual later use. It caps off at 9 spell levels, at which point it no longer absorbs those Force Effects. That is hardly the same thing as having immunity to Force Damage.
Two things need to be brought up for this item to be a feasible explanation:
1. Is it a spell (or an effect like a spell) with the [Force] descriptor? If not, then it doesn't apply to the given effect, period, end of discussion.
2. What is the level of the spell being cast? It's important to know since this generates spell level charges to be fired at later, and if it absorbs enough, the ring stops absorbing effects altogether, regardless of what level they are. The Arcana doesn't list a spell level, so how much does it grant? 1? 2? 5? 10?
It's not specified as to what spell, type of spell, or even what spell level the Magus Arcana is, and there is certainly no [Force] descriptor applicable to it, since those only apply to spells, which the Magus Arcana has proven it's not, since it doesn't have a spell level.
Unless the GM is handwaving these questions or simply isn't concerned about it, there's no reason these questions will not pop up in the game when it's referenced, and at that point it will lead to the GM homebrewing a ring that simply makes you immune to Force Damage, something which even this reference here won't help to alleviate.
It's a much easier and more conceivable (and respectable) answer to simply say it's a special homebrew/3PP subject that only those special snowflake monsters get, and the OP will have to grin and bear it, since there's nothing else amounting to it.