Inform the Non-Forumed - Land Rush Clarifications


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As one of the many people recruiting for the land rush, I've noticed there are a great number of people that don't fully understand the land rush mechanics. Could we get clarifications on some various points sent out via a kickstarter announcement? The following are all issues I've seen:

1. People believe that their guild pack bonuses require them to stay together. Many of these packs won't disband because they believe they might lose some of the benefits they've paid for.

2. Many people still believe this is just about their "guilds" and not about settlements. They have no idea that the land rush is really about "shopping for a home" if they don't intend to compete with the larger settlements.

3. Many people believe that the Land Rush website will convert to in-game guilds. They are not aware that they'll still have to create those guilds once they are in-game anyway.

The word guild is used throughout this instead of company because that is how all of the people who do not follow the forums perceive their organizations still.

Can we get a clear and concise message sent out to people to clarify these points? Concise being the key word to avoid the "TLDR" issue.

I put up a new post using the crowd-forging site here:
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This perhaps isn't in the true spirit of crowdFORGING, however crowdClarifications should be a thing too.

Recruiting has gotten to the point that every leaderboard listing that has a website has the same 5-6 people posting to pull new people in. It made me feel like a vulture so I just stopped doing it. I do however want these people to at least know what is going on right now and how it could affect their future in the game.

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I made a thread a few weeks ago kind of addressing the same thing. Ryan did respond in there. I'll see if I can find it later when I get back.

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Thanks Quietus, I did a quick skim using Virgil's green post tracker but didn't see it.

I'm not sure what Ryan's reply was, but it is still an issue and I'm hoping we can convince them to send something out.

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A mass email is needed. The forums here are not enough since these folks are not on the forums to read about stuff. :-(

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I think Quietus is referring to Crowdforging the Land Rush, and specifically this post from Ryan:

I'm receptive to the idea that we can clarify the rules if needed. The place to do that is on the Leaderboard page, not here though. Most people will never read a message on these forums. Everyone who uses the Leaderboard will see the Leaderboard page.

I'm trying to understand the concern. What "rule" do you think is unclear from the original blog post?

I'll point out that the use of the word "Guild" isn't likely confusing anyone. If you look at the original Leaderboard poll, you'll see that most Guilds on it have 1 vote. And every one of those Guilds was from someone who purchased a 6-account Guild Reward on the Kickstarter (or at least represented to us that they had done so).

There are just a lot of people out there who are 1-person units hoping to find friends and allies. They're not confused.

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Ah, it appears CrowdClarifications are a no go.

Still wish to discuss this issue, just ignore the link to the tool.

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You snooze you lose

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Nihimon wrote:

I think Quietus is referring to Crowdforging the Land Rush, and specifically this post from Ryan:

I'm receptive to the idea that we can clarify the rules if needed. The place to do that is on the Leaderboard page, not here though. Most people will never read a message on these forums. Everyone who uses the Leaderboard will see the Leaderboard page.

I'm trying to understand the concern. What "rule" do you think is unclear from the original blog post?

I'll point out that the use of the word "Guild" isn't likely confusing anyone. If you look at the original Leaderboard poll, you'll see that most Guilds on it have 1 vote. And every one of those Guilds was from someone who purchased a 6-account Guild Reward on the Kickstarter (or at least represented to us that they had done so).

There are just a lot of people out there who are 1-person units hoping to find friends and allies. They're not confused.

Thanks Nihimon. That was the one I was referring to.

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The problem will be obviously solved once the EE starts, IMO the only thing we could do before the start of the EE is to contact individually those guilds.

And I'm sure, *all* the little guilds with a contact in their landrush profile had many personalized explanation provided by you or CBDunk or other recruiters (maybe even a phone call with Cheatle ;)

So at the end of the day the only real issue is that recruiters don't have an opportunity to explain some guys who did not provide a contact in their landrush presentation how it works. I don't think GW can do anything else, they can't force them to read the explanations on the GW website.

GW could do one thing: disclose the contact email of the guy who registered his guild. And I don't think they will want to do that.

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They could provide the option to disclose your contact info. Though that particular ship has pretty-much sailed.

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