Non-standard D4s legal for PFS?


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I was wondering if non-standard D4s (like the D8s or D12s that are numbered 1-4 multiple times, or those long boxy ones) are allowed in PFS games.

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Yes, as long as they are not weighted, they are still dice. For the d4's in the shapes of other dice, you probably should show the GM so they don't get confused when you start rolling what looks like D12s for things like Magic Missile though.

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Just played a mod where a certain PC just couldn't seem to do anything right. Had a animal companion that was just terrible. Then we got to a point where she had to make a strength check, and it was a non time critical point so could attempt multiple times. After missing about 5 checks in a row I discovered she was using one of those d20 percentage dice, so only 0-9 were on the die. Things went much better once that die was retired to the dice bag!

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Heh. Oops.

When I first started playing AD&D (just about the time the 1st edition GM's guide came out), all of the d20s I could find were labelled 0-9 twice. Also, all the dice I could find (except, for some reason, for the d4s) had indentations for the numbers, but they weren't inked or painted in. This meant that I would run a pencil through the indentations so I could actually see the numbers. For the d20s, we had to use two different colors to know if we rolled 6 or 16. (I ended up using a red crayon for half of the numbers, and scraping off the surface. Worked pretty well.)

A year or two later, I started seeing actual d10s with 10 sides (amazing... but violating the Platonic purity of our dice collection....), dice that had the numbers pre-inked, d20s with two-digit numbers, semi-transparent pretty colored dice, pretty swirly dice, etc. Kids had it so easy....

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Yeah I had that original D&D box where you had to crayon the the dice too!

Thanks for the info, David.

Anyone got a favorite D4 alternative?

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My favorite d4 is a dodecahedron with three sides each marked I, II, III, and IV.

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I use the roman d4s from chessex. They work really well.

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Those 12-sided d4s hurt a lot less when you step on them...

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Yup, I remember the red box Basic set that came with a white crayon for coloring in the dice.

And it's not a real d4 unless it can alternatively be used as a caltrop! </grognard>


Joe Jungers wrote:
Those 12-sided d4s hurt a lot less when you step on them...

Yeah I was thinking an alternative to d4s was caltroos but.. that is the wrong order of things. Although the modern ones are a little rounded.

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Mojorat wrote:
Joe Jungers wrote:
Those 12-sided d4s hurt a lot less when you step on them...
Yeah I was thinking an alternative to d4s was caltroos but.. that is the wrong order of things. Although the modern ones are a little rounded.

I played a character in a rather tongue-in-cheek "meta" game who used gaming equipment as weaponry. She used a bag of d4's as caltrops.

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TanRu wrote:


Anyone got a favorite D4 alternative?

I use the d4s with four sides in a square shape with rounded points on the two ends. Sort of like a long crystal.

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Totenpfuhl wrote:
TanRu wrote:


Anyone got a favorite D4 alternative?
I use the d4s with four sides in a square shape with rounded points on the two ends. Sort of like a long crystal.

I never liked those. Despite my joking grognard post above, I actually like the 12 sided d4s.

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12 sided "roman" d4s are excellent. I use large dice though and I wish they made them in larger sizes. I ordered 10 off of the Paizo site and it took almost a month for them to arrive (due to being back ordered from the manufacturer).

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Chessex makes d8's with 1,2,3,4 twice each and those are my favorites. Easy to differentiate from regular D8s because they round the points a bit more.

roman d12s are my next fave, but still far behind my #1 choice.

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My FLGS started selling blank dice... I just picked up some d6s and with a sharpie quickly made d3s... then went back downstairs and grabbed some d8s and sharpied them into d4s... totally legal and FUN!

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rknop wrote:

Heh. Oops.

When I first started playing AD&D (just about the time the 1st edition GM's guide came out), all of the d20s I could find were labelled 0-9 twice. Also, all the dice I could find (except, for some reason, for the d4s) had indentations for the numbers, but they weren't inked or painted in. This meant that I would run a pencil through the indentations so I could actually see the numbers. For the d20s, we had to use two different colors to know if we rolled 6 or 16. (I ended up using a red crayon for half of the numbers, and scraping off the surface. Worked pretty well.)

A year or two later, I started seeing actual d10s with 10 sides (amazing... but violating the Platonic purity of our dice collection....), dice that had the numbers pre-inked, d20s with two-digit numbers, semi-transparent pretty colored dice, pretty swirly dice, etc. Kids had it so easy....

Actually I remember the LGS selling wax pencils of different colors so that people could differentiate the ones from the tens of those twenty sided dice. It was the norm for us in the 70s and 80s before all those new fangled dice came into vogue!

:)

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Often as a GM in PFS I'll use a d12 in place of a d6 or d4 and do the needed division/substitution when making rolls the players shouldn't know about[like ability damage from certain poisons/diseases or for the timing of certain abilities], in case the players happen to glance over at me[I don't use a screen and only occasionally hide die rolls]. It helps keep players guessing.

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