Reposition versus Grapple

[Mr_Nevada]

Hey, my DM and other players, including myself. Got into a debate on a situation. Let me set the scene:

There was this big old mean guy that was wanting to toss one of our party members into a large cauldron and cook him up. At first, my party member was grappled, but I placed Freedom of Movement on him. Therefore, the dude decided to Awesome Blow him into the cauldron rather than drag him into it (for reference, we'll call him, Bad Luck Tim).

Our Cleric cast, Chain of Pertition, I think it was, and it allowed him to make a Combat Maneuver every round, but he had to concentrate as a Move Action.

So, the Cleric used the Chain to try to Reposition Bad Luck Tim outside of the Cauldron itself. However, our DM argued that it would be a grapple to drag him out.

While I can see both, I would like to have a nice difference between what a Reposition would look like as opposed to a grapple.

THAT'S ALL!

[666bender]

i say both can :)
grapple will be on round #2, reposition on round #1/

[Seiryu]

Reposition:

Reposition

You can attempt to reposition a foe to a different location as a standard action. You can only reposition an opponent that is no more than one size category larger than you. A reposition attempts to force a foe to move to a different position in relation to your location without doing any harm. If you do not have the Improved Reposition feat or a similar ability, attempting to reposition a foe provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of your maneuver. You cannot use this maneuver to move a foe into a space that is intrinsically dangerous, such as a pit or wall of fire.

If your attack is successful, you may move your target 5 feet to a new location. For every 5 by which your attack exceeds your opponent's CMD, you can move the target an additional 5 feet. The target must remain within your reach at all times during this movement, except for the final 5 feet of movement, which can be to a space adjacent to your reach.

An enemy being moved by a reposition does not provoke an attack of opportunity because of the movement unless you possess the Greater Reposition feat. You cannot move a creature into a square that is occupied by a solid object or obstacle.

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There are a few differences between Grapple and Reposition.

1) It takes 2 rounds to reposition with a grapple. First round to initialize the grapple, second round to move the foe after maintaining the grapple. It only takes one round to reposition.

2)You cannot reposition anyone INTO harmful spaces, but you can move them out of them. You can move people into harmful spaces with grapples.

Honestly, I would rule it as a grapple attempt if you're throwing a chain down to grab him with it, otherwise it would simply be a climb check for the person trying to get out of the cauldron using the rulings of having a rope against a wall. Since he's in a cauldron, you can't reposition him to an adjacent square since the cauldron blocks the path. Climb check would make the most sense in this situation.