Shard of Envy and it's ioun stone


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Here's my issue:
The shard of envy gives (along other things) a +1 insight bonus to AC, and the ioun stone needed to stop it's curse is a dusty rose prism, which gives a +1 insight bonus to AC. The bonuses don't stack, so what did you do?
Do you let it stack?
Do you leave it as it is and have the shard envy don't give the PCs a benefit?


This was answered somewhere else by JJ I believe. Too lazy to find a link I'm afraid. Short answer, they do not stack. One could say it makes the Shard of Envy envious of the other Shards. i


Huh, that's a bit weird. When I played the campaign, I completely disregarded the ioun stone stuff (It seemed really random, and odd that Sheila would know exactly how to manage the ancient artifacts).

As a DM, I would just let them stack. Or use a different ioun stone, or whatever.


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Core Rulebook, Getting Started wrote:
Stacking: Stacking refers to the act of adding together bonuses or penalties that apply to one particular check or statistic. Generally speaking, most bonuses of the same type do not stack. Instead, only the highest bonus applies. Most penalties do stack, meaning that their values are added together. Penalties and bonuses generally stack with one another, meaning that the penalties might negate or exceed part or all of the bonuses, and vice versa.

They're both insight bonuses, therefore they don't stack. By default, circumstance and dodge bonuses are (IIRC) the only ones that stack; other bonuses must explicitly state that they stack with like bonuses to do so.


Dragonchess Player wrote:
Core Rulebook, Getting Started wrote:
Stacking: Stacking refers to the act of adding together bonuses or penalties that apply to one particular check or statistic. Generally speaking, most bonuses of the same type do not stack. Instead, only the highest bonus applies. Most penalties do stack, meaning that their values are added together. Penalties and bonuses generally stack with one another, meaning that the penalties might negate or exceed part or all of the bonuses, and vice versa.
They're both insight bonuses, therefore they don't stack. By default, circumstance and dodge bonuses are (IIRC) the only ones that stack; other bonuses must explicitly state that they stack with like bonuses to do so.

Yes i know the rules on stacking, i am asking about your opinions on the matter.


I played it by the book so the bonuses didn't stack. Either way, it doesn't make much of a difference by this point.


A bit of Necromancy: RAISE THREAD!!

I'm running a mashup Shattered Star/Rise of Runelords, and I changed the Shard of Envy to +2 CMD instead, so it stacks with the +1 AC

Maybe this helps someone who reads this thread, and thus the necromancy has some value

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