About that Dragonbane Sword


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Out of curiosity I looked up the item creation rules in the CRB, and I'm a little confused. By those rules, if I'm doing this right, the Dragonbane Sword in the Black Fang's Lair scenario should cost 15 GP (for the basic Longsword) + 300 GP for Masterwork + 8,000 GP for two levels of enchantment (one for the +1, and one for the dragonbane bit). That's 8315 GP. Yet the Players' Guide lists it as 8310 GP. Is that a typo, or did I miss something? (I do know you can't make this sword in the BB version of the game - no creation feats - but I thought the price of stuff was the same as the full game.

Another thing: the required spell for the bane enchantment is "Monster Summoning I". I'm not sure I see the connection between summoning a monster (and you can't summon a dragon with that spell anyway) and doing extra damage to it. I learned to accept "it's magic, shut up" where D&D is concerned a long time ago, so I suppose it doesn't matter much, but i'm just curious why that spell?


Ed Reppert wrote:
Out of curiosity I looked up the item creation rules in the CRB, and I'm a little confused. By those rules, if I'm doing this right, the Dragonbane Sword in the Black Fang's Lair scenario should cost 15 GP (for the basic Longsword) + 300 GP for Masterwork + 8,000 GP for two levels of enchantment (one for the +1, and one for the dragonbane bit). That's 8315 GP. Yet the Players' Guide lists it as 8310 GP. Is that a typo, or did I miss something? (I do know you can't make this sword in the BB version of the game - no creation feats - but I thought the price of stuff was the same as the full game.

There is a scratch gouged into the pommel that lowers the value. (-_-) Seriously, it's like 0.05% of the value of the sword. That being said, I believe your calculation of the value (8315 GP) is correct.


Ed Reppert wrote:

Out of curiosity I looked up the item creation rules in the CRB, and I'm a little confused. By those rules, if I'm doing this right, the Dragonbane Sword in the Black Fang's Lair scenario should cost 15 GP (for the basic Longsword) + 300 GP for Masterwork + 8,000 GP for two levels of enchantment (one for the +1, and one for the dragonbane bit). That's 8315 GP. Yet the Players' Guide lists it as 8310 GP. Is that a typo, or did I miss something? (I do know you can't make this sword in the BB version of the game - no creation feats - but I thought the price of stuff was the same as the full game.

Another thing: the required spell for the bane enchantment is "Monster Summoning I". I'm not sure I see the connection between summoning a monster (and you can't summon a dragon with that spell anyway) and doing extra damage to it. I learned to accept "it's magic, shut up" where D&D is concerned a long time ago, so I suppose it doesn't matter much, but i'm just curious why that spell?

Yes, I believe 8,315 GP is correct.

Interesting question on the "Summon Monster I" requirement...I would hazard to guess it has something to do with summoning the essence of the monster into the weapon to be used against it, but that's a bit of a stretch. Very strange.


As far as the price goes, I remember a statement at one time, that the developers some times round the prices off a little. So while 8,310 is only a slight improvement on 8,315, I guess everything counts.

I actually think summon monster fits okay. Since the Bane property can be applied to every type/subtype, the summon spells underlines variety in creature options.


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HaraldKlak wrote:
I actually think summon monster fits okay. Since the Bane property can be applied to every type/subtype, the summon spells underlines variety in creature options.

Well, maybe. Except for the fact that there is no Summon Monster spell that will summon a dragon.

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