Ridiculous wealth = total concealment, humourous concept

[Liam Warner]

I finally have enough spare wealth to start looking into Ioun stone options and there are so many nice ones in there (I can't afford sigh) I started tallying up what I'd want to get if I had the wealth . . .

3 +2 to every stat stacks to plus 6 = 18
1 no need to eat or drink = 1
? +5 temporary hp no limit = ?
1 abosrb 50 spell levels = 1
1 store 3 spell levels = 1
2 +5 to acrobatics and swim = 1
1 gain benefits of alrtness feat = 1
1 avoid undead = 1
1 +5 to ride = 1

and there's a lot more but that's already up to 25+ stones orbitting one persons head and with things like the gold nodule or the bonus hp that have no stacking limit I'm picturing some obscenely wealthy emperor with so many stones orbitting their head that they can't see past the front of their nose without glasses of X-Ray vision because there's just this solid orb of stones circling them at all times.

EDIT
Of course on a side note since my character doesn't need to eat, drink, breathe or sleep (mythic path abilities are fun) she can't implant the stones in her body as she can't fast. An annoying but fair ruling.

[nate lange]

the +2 stat ioun stones you're talking about only stack with themselves (not with a belt/headband), and are far more expensive...
to add +6 to all stats that way would cost:
24,000g/stone x3 stones/stat= 72,000g/stat x6 stats= 432,000g
to get that same bonus from a belt and a headband would only total 288,000g, so those 18 ioun stones would be a pretty bad investment (unless there's a belt and a headband that you need so bad you're willing to pay an extra 144,000g for them, i guess).

[ShadeOfRed]

nate lange wrote:

the +2 stat ioun stones you're talking about only stack with themselves (not with a belt/headband), and are far more expensive...

to add +6 to all stats that way would cost:
24,000g/stone x3 stones/stat= 72,000g/stat x6 stats= 432,000g
to get that same bonus from a belt and a headband would only total 288,000g, so those 18 ioun stones would be a pretty bad investment (unless there's a belt and a headband that you need so bad you're willing to pay an extra 144,000g for them, i guess).

I think the point is to think about a character concept that has gone nuts with Ioun Stones to the point of providing themselves full cover with all of them. :)

[nate lange]

if the goal is just to get cover/concealment from them, buying expensive ones is the absolute wrong approach...

ioun torch (APG) 75g x i don't know, 100? = 7500g
+ any other stones you actually want

[Nawtyit]

Starts doing surface area math...

[Cap. Darling]

What Ioun Stones stack ability bonus? I cant seem to find it.

[Cap. Darling]

And to the OP remember that your enemies would have the same relative concealment as your PC.
But this gave me a wish for Ioun Stones on my current PC:)

[Nawtyit]

Ioun stones rotate at 1d3 feat from your HEAD. If you were 1.5 ft tall, and all the ioun stones were 3 feet from your head, you would need 8,143 prism shaped ioun torches costing 610,725 gp to create a full sphere around you. (This assumes that a prism shaped ioun stone is 2 inch high and you are not touching the ground.) I'm not really sure how big an ioun stone is.

More realistically, you are probably around 6 feet tall and cannot form a full sphere. The stones also rotate, so, even if you had a hemisphere of stones, you would only have coverage half the time. Half coverage on half your body would not be total concealment.

If I were the GM and you were a small character with 3,000 ioun stones around you (worth 225,000 gp), I'd give you partial cover.

A better idea might be to make a wondrous item that works like an ioun stone and gives a shield bonus.

EDIT: Also check out this prestige class from Strategists & Tacticians by 4 Winds Fantasy Games.

[Liam Warner]

ShadeOfRed wrote:

nate lange wrote:

the +2 stat ioun stones you're talking about only stack with themselves (not with a belt/headband), and are far more expensive...

to add +6 to all stats that way would cost:
24,000g/stone x3 stones/stat= 72,000g/stat x6 stats= 432,000g
to get that same bonus from a belt and a headband would only total 288,000g, so those 18 ioun stones would be a pretty bad investment (unless there's a belt and a headband that you need so bad you're willing to pay an extra 144,000g for them, i guess).

I think the point is to think about a character concept that has gone nuts with Ioun Stones to the point of providing themselves full cover with all of them. :)

It is I was just listing the ones that caught my eye and nice and useful but if you want to insert "realism" into the discusiion he just fills up on the gray 25 GP ones that can be any shape.

@Cap. Darling
Although there are rules to create the stacking stones I'm pretty sure there meant to be representative of rare ones that aren't commonly found any more from Rise of the Runelords. Also while they may not give the strength of a belt some of us prefer more utility in our abilities and if a wizard can stick that +6 strength/dex/con on slotless stones why not take it?