I got a means to go for a boon sheet to play as one, but I am very worried about the lack of customization when compared to say Vanara who have much more customization in comparison in the form of one feat and a few alternate racial traits. Like Ganzi got no FCBs or alternate racial traits or feats which makes me suspect that Ganzi might actually be quiet dull to play as.
Not all classes have interesting FCBs. Paladins, Fighters, for example, usually just go for the skill or HP point.
Not all classes have interesting FCBs. Paladins, Fighters, for example, usually just go for the skill or HP point.
And that justifies a race lacking even the simplest of things like a few favored classes bonuses? Let alone racial feats or alternate traits? How about the Suli race for instance?
Magus: Add +1/4 point to the magus's arcane pool.
Monk: Add +1/2 point of damage to elemental assault.
Ranger: Add +1 to acid resistance, cold resistance, electricity resistance, or fire resistance.
That is all they get for FCBs sure but it provides you with different options on how to build them; two of the three even go nicely with the racial benefits of being a Suli as opposed to another race.
And I only bring up Suli because of the minimal amount of customization options one is given to work with (3 alternate racial traits, 3 different FCBs, 1 archetype, two racial feats) but in comparison to Ganzi its like comparing a Suli to a Half-Elf for how much racial stuff they got going on.
So don't play f%%~ing Ganzi.
I made it known that I ban all racial options in my games. Everyone gets a mobile +2 to an attribute, a free feat, and the choice between an extra skill point, darkvision, or lightvision and +2 to something. There are no FCBs in my games either - everyone just gets a feat every 6 levels in the same class.
What justifies Ganzi not having enough options is that they are not meant for common use so they won't use editorial resources in giving them more options.
I just recommended Paladins and Fighters because you said you didn't want to miss out on good FCBs.
If you have a problem with the material, don't play PFS.
The lack of customization does not make it dull to play. The character still has all the customization of feats, archetypes, spells, etc. For me, my race options have never made a character interesting or not interesting.
Since it is only available as a boon, you will be a snowflake simply by virtue of being a ganzi.
So don't play f~#%ing Ganzi.
I made it known that I ban all racial options in my games. Everyone gets a mobile +2 to an attribute, a free feat, and the choice between an extra skill point, darkvision, or lightvision and +2 to something. There are no FCBs in my games either - everyone just gets a feat every 6 levels in the same class.
What justifies Ganzi not having enough options is that they are not meant for common use so they won't use editorial resources in giving them more options.
I just recommended Paladins and Fighters because you said you didn't want to miss out on good FCBs.
If you have a problem with the material, don't play PFS.
First of all, watch the language. Swearing makes your argument weaker as you are shown as flustered.
Second that is YOUR GAME. Not EVERYONE is in YOUR GAME. Other play groups use the standard stuff for PFS, not some homerules.
Third of all I have played in PFS with Race Boons and Ganzai are the worst race I seen that is meant as a convention exclusive race. Goblins Oread, Sylphs, Tiefling, Aasimar, Vanara, Catfolk, etc, etc are convention exclusive races and have plenty of benefits over a Ganzi.
The lack of customization does not make it dull to play. The character still has all the customization of feats, archetypes, spells, etc. For me, my race options have never made a character interesting or not interesting.
This maybe just our differences but I find it less desirable to play a race that has less replayability or customization than a core race or other convention exclusive races.
Since it is only available as a boon, you will be a snowflake simply by virtue of being a ganzi.
Flawed logic. So your saying its fine because its exclusive even if in reality its a weaker race as a result when held up to scrutinize and comparison to other races for similar things like the +2 CHA & CON -2 INT it has going on? Sylphs are an exclusive race as well and they have A LOT of customization in how a person can build a character.
... ... ... I can't belive I have to argue on why less options for a race is not good.
Do either of you realize what it takes to get a Ganzi boon sheet anyway? You have to trade in BOTH your Tiefling and Aasimar race sheets to get this race. Are you still going to argue that is a fine deal when knowing what it costs to get one? The boon sheet even has to state what languages it speaks because it wasn't included in the original entry found in the Distant Shores campaign setting book.
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If you don't want to play one then don't play one. I fail to see the problem. If you're asking for a build then make it clear that that's what you want.
First of all, watch the language. Swearing makes your argument weaker as you are shown as flustered.Second that is YOUR GAME. Not EVERYONE is in YOUR GAME. Other play groups use the standard stuff for PFS, not some homerules.
Third of all I have played in PFS with Race Boons and Ganzai are the worst race I seen that is meant as a convention exclusive race. Goblins Oread, Sylphs, Tiefling, Aasimar, Vanara, Catfolk, etc, etc are convention exclusive races and have plenty of benefits over a Ganzi.
You dare talk about flawed logic when you are the one rejecting arguments because "you said a bad word".
I know it's my game, I said it was my game.
You are the one who wants to play a stupid Ganzi which is a race made in one of the extra materials, a race that has little to no support because a) it does not remit to any typical fantasy trope so as to merit attention, b) comes from a relatively unknown side material, and c) it is simply not popular.
If you just wanna complain that Ganzi are unsupported, then do it, nobody here will stop you. They are unsupported.
If you wanna complain that Ganzi are unsupported and that's why the game sucks, then do it. Very few people think that racial FCBs and racial specific options add to the game in a positive way.
But if you want to do either of those things, do it OUTSIDE the advice forum. You are not seeking advice, you just want to air your opinions.
Now, you did air one concern where advice could be merited. You said you had a boon and you didn't know whether to use it because you felt you might miss out on FCBs and race options. I said that you should go Paladin or Fighter because those are classes that can function really well without any of the racial options.
And then you went on a tirade that serves no purpose, all the while attacking everyone who posted here and coming out as a huge ass, which is way worse than saying "f$%*".
So yeah, do you have any questions or do you just want to rant?
That escalated quickly.
One suggestion would be to try trading it.
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You dare talk about flawed logic when you are the one rejecting arguments because "you said a bad word".
I know it's my game, I said it was my game.
You are the one who wants to play a stupid Ganzi which is a race made in one of the extra materials, a race that has little to no support because a) it does not remit to any typical fantasy trope so as to merit attention, b) comes from a relatively unknown side material, and c) it is simply not popular.
If you just wanna complain that Ganzi are unsupported, then do it, nobody here will stop you. They are unsupported.
If you wanna complain that Ganzi are unsupported and that's why the game sucks, then do it. Very few people think that racial FCBs and racial specific options add to the game in a positive way.
But if you want to do either of those things, do it OUTSIDE the advice forum. You are not seeking advice, you just want to air your opinions.
Now, you did air one concern where advice could be merited. You said you had a boon and you didn't know whether to use it because you felt you might miss out on FCBs and race options. I said that you should go Paladin or Fighter because those are classes that can function really well without any of the racial options.
And then you went on a tirade that serves no purpose, all the while attacking everyone who posted here and coming out as a huge ass, which is way worse than saying "f@*+".
So yeah, do you have any questions or do you just want to rant?
I am so glad your not my GM or one of my players. This type of behavior is inexcusable.
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PFS usually isn't difficult enough that a lack of power is usually a problem. In fact it is one of the venues where I typically see people try the less powerful concepts simply because they are still more than good enough to make a meaningful contribution.
Many people simply like the opportunity to put together wierd race and class combinations. Even if not very optimal.
But if you don't like that, don't do it.
You have a rare boon I'm sure you could trade it for someother boon that you will enjoy.
I am so glad your not my GM or one of my players. This type of behavior is inexcusable.
Makes two of us.
I'm not trying to argue anything. You asked for advice. I interpreted your quandary as, "Should I acquire a boon to play a ganzi? I'm concerned that the lack of alternate racial traits and alternate FCBs will make it dull to play."
I merely suggested that since you'll be relatively unique, you would have plenty of opportunity to make play interesting by virtue of being unique. Now, if that is not enough to encourage you, that is OK. I'm not trying to persuade you to my way of enjoyment. I have no vested interest in your decision.
My suggestion certainly does not warrant the response it recieved.
My advice, based on your stated concerns, is, "No, you should not go for ganzi."
Ganzi have fewer options because they are a very new race. Distant Shores is only a few months old. They're a pretty cool option and they'll be unique.
Hells, if you want something else I'll trade you an aasimar boon for the ganzi boon.
