Dissolution of the Terms of Alliance - Aeternum and UNC


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Pax Charlie George wrote:

@All

Meh

Oh I certainly agree with that statement!

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avari3 wrote:
Pax Areks wrote:
avari3 wrote:
Pax Areks wrote:
Qallz wrote:
All that and not one day in-game. lol
We've been in game for over two years now... since Wednesday, December 7, 2011.

It's not the regular season yet, that would be OE. It's not even the preseason, that would be EE. It's the offseason, at best. And you guys just cut your 2nd rd draft pick before the 1st day of spring training because you think they MIGHT not fit the defense you're running.

Congratulations Pax.

"Oh my GAWD I can't believe UNC ALLIED WITH PAX!!!"

"Oh my GAWD I can't believe PAX UNALLIED WITH UNC!!"

Avari, you really are precious when you try hard.

LOL. Don't be a sour puss. You guys deserve a minor ribbing for this and I'm giving it to you. Not predicting the end of Pax Gaming here ;p

If it makes you feel better you're still the preseason paper champs!

Don't listen to Areks, Avari. You're still my hero. Even if you didn't know it. You are. And yeah, we figured some folks would rib us about it.

I want to stress, though, that while Aeternum and UNC have dissolved their terms of alliance, our personal relationship with the folks in UNC are unchanged. Even if we end up poking each other with sharp objects in game.

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Pax Rawn wrote:


Don't listen to Areks, Avari. You're still my hero. Even if you didn't know it. You are. And yeah, we figured some folks would rib us about it.

I want to stress, though, that while Aeternum and UNC have dissolved their terms of alliance, our personal relationship with the folks in UNC are unchanged. Even if we end up poking each other with sharp objects in game.

awww, shucks! Hugs with pointy sticks for everyone!

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*RP hugs for Avari*

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DeciusBrutus wrote:
Bluddwolf wrote:


I have the same offer on the table for The Seventh Veil. Now that our channels are open.

Sorry, after discussion any such agreement would have to include restrictions on the actions of UNC that we don't think you would comply with, specifically including a both an understanding regarding what targets are and are not 'fair game' and a blanket prohibition against violating the spirit of the agreement while complying with the letter thereof.

Personal Opinion and forward-looking statement:

If your actions in-game cause us to believe that we were mistaken about your intentions, the remote possibility of a reevaluation exists. It would be very surprising to me if your in-game actions differed that much from what I have come to expect.

I may piss off Pax with this but I must make this clear.....

The alliance contract with Pax was dissolved, not because any aspect of the agreement was not being met by the UNC. Any request that they had made was received, reviewed and accepted. Any clarification of our policy was made in public, allowed for debate and even modified.

The whole trade off of our agreement was based on two obligations on Pax Aeternum's part. They would provide the UNC with training facilities. Secondly, they would provide us with plenty of opportunities to ply our trade outside of Pax's settlement hexes, and against rival interests of Pax. It was on both of these accounts that Pax felt it could not meet its obligations to the UNC.

The UNC are mercenary bandits, we were founded on this concept. We adhere to our contracts, to such an extent that our original intended company alignment was Lawful Neutral.

No one will ever be given cause to question if we did not do our very best to meet all contractual obligations. Nor would we ever allow dissolution to be an option rather than make a few minor details to be modified even after an agreement was struck.

I have no doubt our actions in-game will mirror our adherence to our word here in the meta game.

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Bluddwolf wrote:
DeciusBrutus wrote:
Bluddwolf wrote:


I have the same offer on the table for The Seventh Veil. Now that our channels are open.

Sorry, after discussion any such agreement would have to include restrictions on the actions of UNC that we don't think you would comply with, specifically including a both an understanding regarding what targets are and are not 'fair game' and a blanket prohibition against violating the spirit of the agreement while complying with the letter thereof.

Personal Opinion and forward-looking statement:

If your actions in-game cause us to believe that we were mistaken about your intentions, the remote possibility of a reevaluation exists. It would be very surprising to me if your in-game actions differed that much from what I have come to expect.

I may piss off Pax with this but I must make this clear.....

The alliance contract with Pax was dissolved, not because any aspect of the agreement was not being met by the UNC. Any request that they had made was received, reviewed and accepted. Any clarification of our policy was made in public, allowed for debate and even modified.

The whole trade off of our agreement was based on two obligations on Pax Aeternum's part. They would provide the UNC with training facilities. Secondly, they would provide us with plenty of opportunities to ply our trade outside of Pax's settlement hexes, and against rival interests of Pax. It was on both of these accounts that Pax felt it could not meet its obligations to the UNC.

The UNC are mercenary bandits, we were founded on this concept. We adhere to our contracts, to such an extent that our original intended company alignment was Lawful Neutral.

No one will ever be given cause to question if we did not do our very best to meet all contractual obligations. Nor would we ever allow dissolution to be an option rather than make a few minor details to be modified even after an agreement was struck.

I have no doubt our actions in-game will mirror...

Doesn't piss me off, that's an accurate accounting =)

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No, I was being serious, he's precious. MY precious. ;)

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@Bludd, thanks for the friendly offer of your protection racket, it will be something I look into once we can talk prices. :) Also, just FYI I'm not involved in a company. I was starting one up a while ago with another guy (called the Path Forgers) but he's since dropped off the radar and I'm more of a right-hand man type guy than a company leader myself, so I'm back to patiently waiting for another opportunity (or waiting until such time that I decide on one of the current organizations). :)

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Shane Gifford wrote:
@Bludd, thanks for the friendly offer of your protection racket, it will be something I look into once we can talk prices. :) Also, just FYI I'm not involved in a company. I was starting one up a while ago with another guy (called the Path Forgers) but he's since dropped off the radar and I'm more of a right-hand man type guy than a company leader myself, so I'm back to patiently waiting for another opportunity (or waiting until such time that I decide on one of the current organizations). :)

I wont tell if you dont

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Shane Gifford wrote:
@Bludd, thanks for the friendly offer of your protection racket, it will be something I look into once we can talk prices. :) Also, just FYI I'm not involved in a company. I was starting one up a while ago with another guy (called the Path Forgers) but he's since dropped off the radar and I'm more of a right-hand man type guy than a company leader myself, so I'm back to patiently waiting for another opportunity (or waiting until such time that I decide on one of the current organizations). :)

Coincidence is a funny thing.

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Well, if you don't like the idea of paying taxes and tolls to us for our protection, there is another way....

We are recruiting.... <evil grin>

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"The Goodfellow" wrote:

Well, if you don't like the idea of paying taxes and tolls to us for our protection, there is another way....

We are recruiting.... <evil grin>

Shane just joined Pax, not a day after our terms ended. So if he wanted protection from UNC, he just went from Neutral (Grey) to Neutral (Grey).

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But as a perspective merchant, he is free to hire you for protection outside Pax lands, is he not? Not that I'm promoting hiring bandits for protection (when I go traveling, I don't plan on carrying anything worth stealing...except my hat), but I believe you've said in the past that it's one service you are offering.

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Pax Hobs wrote:
But as a perspective merchant, he is free to hire you for protection outside Pax lands, is he not? Not that I'm promoting hiring bandits for protection (when I go traveling, I don't plan on carrying anything worth stealing...except my hat), but I believe you've said in the past that it's one service you are offering.

Yes he can "hire" our services as an individual inside (if we are not hostile)or outside of Pax lands. He may even receive a discount considering our former ties with Pax, and our general friendly tone.

We do intend to test out Golgotha and their crew from time-to-time, do a bit of raiding and SADing in Pax lands. Not with the intentions of really screwing up your DI, but just to let you know we're out there in the wilds.

MLB uses a acronym "WAR" (Wins after Return) to measure the value of a player when he returns to the team.

We will use the acronym "RAC" (Robberies after Contract) to demonstrate the value lost when a contract expires.

Not immediately, that would be in poor taste, but certainly eventually. It is just good for reputation (meta) and what is good for meta reputation is good for business.

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Pax Charlie George wrote:

@All

Meh

@Meh

Meh

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Xeen wrote:
Pax Charlie George wrote:

@All

Meh

@Meh

Meh

Ahh Xeen, the inspirational and instructive power of your words can move mountains and change the hearts and minds of millions.

I salute you Sir /salute

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Bluddwolf wrote:
Xeen wrote:
Pax Charlie George wrote:

@All

Meh

@Meh

Meh

Ahh Xeen, the inspirational and instructive power of your words can move mountains and change the hearts and minds of millions.

I salute you Sir /salute

I am glad I can motivate everyone to be ruthless in their forum responses and dealings with other members of this great community.

I look forward to being an inspiration for years to come. I know I can teach everyone the ways of being a community motivator. Then everyone can share in the wealth of greatness.

I humbly accept your award for Valor in the face of the great adversity.

LOL

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Xeen wrote:
I humbly accept your award for Valor in the face of the great adversity.

For Forum Valor

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Bluddwolf wrote:
Xeen wrote:
I humbly accept your award for Valor in the face of the great adversity.
For Forum Valor

LMFAO

Im crying over that picture.

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It's okay Xeen, it's just a stuffed doll, no need to be so distressed. ;)

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