There are plenty of NG ones, plus a few LG ones, but no CG ones. The description of an angel says they can be of any good alignment, so how come Paizo hasn't published any Elysium-residing angels yet?
Just take one of the extant angels and make them CG, and voila!
Or maybe they're in the next Bestiary. I dunno.
I've only needed combat stats for a celestial once, ever. Are your PCs intent on murdering some angels?
The only difference between an NG Solar and a CG Solar is the alignment; there's no need to print a brand-new statblock only for that reason :)
If you're speaking of named angels, they may simply not have come around to any CGs yet.
I've only needed combat stats for a celestial once, ever. Are your PCs intent on murdering some angels?
No, just wondering at the discrepancy. There's been so many monsters done by Paizo over the years, with whole new RACES of evil outsiders added and tons of other celestials made, yet we never got a unique CG angel. Wondering how it would differ from what's already there.
It would be called an azata.
It would be called an azata.
I think that what he's getting at is that angels are sort of universal celestials, separate from archons, agathions, and azatas. There are LG and NG angels -- which are not archons or agathions -- but not stats for a CG one.
If you're running a planes-based adventure, it could indeed be relevant.
On the other hand, I agree that at least for the time being, you could tweak existing angel stats and change its alignment block to "CG" and that's all that would be required.
I doubt we will get more angel stats as IIRC the devs have said that while they've tried to cover everything, they focus for new monsters ones that would most likely be used as adversaries in a typical heroic campaign (where the PCs would presumably not be slaughtering good aligned outsiders).
Angels make for excellent planar allies, though.
I think you can make an angel lawful good or chaotic good with very little mechanics changes - it'd be entirely your discretion if the angel would get the Lawful or Chaotic alignment subtypes, since that's actually based on planar affiliation and not the actual alignment.
I tend to assume that angels have the same alignment as whatever deity is employing them.
Thias, Cayden's herald, might mechanically be an example of a chaotic good angel. I don't remember if she actually has signature angel abilities, like the aura of protection.
It could be worth mentioning that the 3.5 angels all had "always good (any)" as their alignment; the fact that the Pathfinder angels have "NG" can thus be considered a placeholder more than anything else, especially considering the text "Angels can be of any good alignment" near the beginning of the Angel write-up in the Bestiary. Presumably a specific alignment was needed due to the new statblock organization.
(I can't find any LG angels, other than a 3rd-party one; is there a unique LG angel in a Paizo adventure?)
Iomedae's herald, The Hand of the Inheritor.
I just assume that all of the Angels can be found in all variations of Good and are basically customized by their relative gods accordingly. Archons, Azatas and Agathions are more shaped by their respective planes.
Of course I'd also be in favor of using angels to represent divine heralds of any god so that you might have LE Planetars serving one god and a CE Solar of another god.
But that would have very interesting implications on planar ally spells
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The CG angels get cast out for not toeing the party line and end up devils.
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...Oh, wait, you mean in Pathfinder? Yeah, no idea.
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IIRC, angels are explicitly mentioned as being evenly spread across the good alignments. The alignment spread for Chronicle of the Righteous' angel-originated Empyreal Lords is pretty even too.
Iomedae's herald, The Hand of the Inheritor.
Thais, Cayden Cailean's pal, would be a good CG point of comparison.
(funny enough, both she and LG Ragathiel originally had six wings and lost one each in VERY similar circumstances)
There is also daemons, witch if you die from them, you suffer a fate much worse then normal death.
There are plenty of NG ones, plus a few LG ones, but no CG ones. The description of an angel says they can be of any good alignment, so how come Paizo hasn't published any Elysium-residing angels yet?
Likely because each outsider subtype is attached to a particular plane and alignment. So for example Angels are always NG, Azata are always CG, and Archon are always LG. Similarly, Devils are LE, Daemon are NE, and Demons are CE.
The ones you find that defy that are mostly fiat/story characters. Its not an awful idea to deviate.
There are plenty of NG ones, plus a few LG ones, but no CG ones. The description of an angel says they can be of any good alignment, so how come Paizo hasn't published any Elysium-residing angels yet?Likely because each outsider subtype is attached to a particular plane and alignment. So for example Angels are always NG, Azata are always CG, and Archon are always LG. Similarly, Devils are LE, Daemon are NE, and Demons are CE.
The ones you find that defy that are mostly fiat/story characters. Its not an awful idea to deviate.
The NG outsider subtype is the Agathions.
Angels are specifically mentioned as having members of all the Good alignments. As mentioned before, the 3.5 versions had "good (any)" as their alignment, while in Pathfinder all the regular angels have "NG" as their printed alignment. This is likely because a specific alignment was needed for Paizo's statblock setup.